Shed socket

[Steve__M]

Is a normal surface-mounted socket OK for a (brick) shed?

The shed is connected to the kitchen with a covered, secure, "utility
room" - ie. probably not an official indoor "room".

I intend to run a spur from the kitchen ring-main along the brick wall
of this utility room to the shed.

The kitchen circuit will be protected by RCD.

Do I need any particular protection for the cable other than plastic
trunking?
Should the spur be fused?

Thanks

Steve

PS. Before you all shout Part P, I'm also rewiring the whole house - so
far this is the only bit that I couldn't find satisfactory answers for.
Once I've finished planning, I will either notify LABC or get my electrician
(who will do the final connection to the consumer unit) to check it.

 

[Steve]

continuous plastic conduit would be OK. I mean the round solvent-weld stuff, not the square clip-top versions.

 

[JohnD]

I like mini-trunking

 

[Pensdown]

Before you all shout Part P, I'm also rewiring the whole house

If you're rewiring have you thought about a separate circuit for the shed?

 

[Steve]

I like mini-trunking

outdoors? on brickwork? yuck.

 

[JohnD]

outdoors? on brickwork? yummy

You can paint it to blend in if you like (non-drip gloss, before fixing the lid)

 

[securespark]

I like mini-trunking

Less, just as much or more than you like RCBO's?

 

[Steve]

 

[plugwash]

imho for good looking surface wiring on bare brick you can't beat bare copper MICC.

 

[sm1thson]

imho for good looking surface wiring on bare brick you can't beat bare copper MICC.

i agree, but generally not for DIY!

 

[Steve__M]

Thanks for the advice.

Appearance is not important as it's in a "utility room" so there'll be cupboards in front of it.

I'll consider a separate circuit - I think all CUs come with 5 RCDs these days
so that's 1) upstairs ring, 2) downstairs ring, 3) kitchen ring, 4) cooker and
5) outside socket, (combi shower rather than electric) - yay!

As there were no comments to the contrary I'll use a standard surface mounted socket back box in the shed.

 

[Steve]

CUs come in any number of ways.

12 way:

8 way:

1 way:

14 way (but available up to 21 way)

6 or 8 way 3 phase board, adaptable to 18 or 24 way single phase:

with a 16 way 3 phase board, you could have up to 48 ways.

 

[davy_owen_88]

I'll consider a separate circuit - I think all CUs come with 5 RCDs these days
so that's 1) upstairs ring, 2) downstairs ring, 3) kitchen ring, 4) cooker and
5) outside socket, (combi shower rather than electric) - yay!

Hope you like going about your life in the dark and I think you mean MCB's. You should only have the 1 RCD, or 2 if you have a TT supply.

Davy

 

[Steve__M]

Sorry, getting the jargon a bit wrong.

Basically the electrician recommended the same type of CU as the one in my home and the one I saw in B&Q with, I think, 10 MCBs. 5 with the
RCD and 5 without. So I was going to copy what I have at home and put
the sockets on the RCD ones and the lights (which I'm not rewiring as they're OK) on the non-RCD ones if I run out of RCD ones.

Looks like this Hager one:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consumer_unit

 

[davy_owen_88]

It's always a better idea to put the lights on the non-rcd side (except for TT supplies) because you don't want to be plunged into darkness when it trips.

Davy