Small boat crossings

[noseall]

, they certainly form a large part of ills.

Such as?

 

[diy_fun_uk]

Whilst not the cause, there are many, they certainly form a large part of ills.

If we think of the UKs socioeconomic ills as being 100%, I'm not sure what % can be directly attributed to illegal migrants. I don't even know how you'd go about robustly quantifying it, however I suspect the actual % based on my model would be relatively low.

However, I'm not saying they're not a contributing factor, they undoubtedly are.

 

[noseall]

If we think of the UKs socioeconomic ills as being 100%, I'm not sure what % can be directly attributed to illegal migrants. I don't even know how you'd go about robustly quantifying it, however I suspect the actual % based on my model would be relatively low.

However, I'm not saying they're not a contributing factor, they undoubtedly are.

Some ill infromed Farragists believe they form a large part of the UKs ills.
They won't be able to back that up though.

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

I don't even know how you'd go about robustly quantifying it, however I suspect the actual % based on my model would be relatively low.

https://hansard.parliament.uk/Lords/2024-10-09/debates/60F7EDDD-3EC4-4BF6-82FE-1AEC24F3B52D/IllegalMigrants

I welcome the noble Lord to his position. On one day this week more than 970 migrants crossed the channel. Up to 745,000 illegal migrants are currently in the UK. One in 100 of the population—more than in any other European country—is a migrant in this country. Against that background, and with an alleged £6 billion overspend on asylum seekers, is it the Government’s policy to continue to house migrants in hotels for another three years?

£6 billion, could make a considerable difference to the UK's finances.

 

[diy_fun_uk]

https://hansard.parliament.uk/Lords/2024-10-09/debates/60F7EDDD-3EC4-4BF6-82FE-1AEC24F3B52D/IllegalMigrants

I welcome the noble Lord to his position. On one day this week more than 970 migrants crossed the channel. Up to 745,000 illegal migrants are currently in the UK. One in 100 of the population—more than in any other European country—is a migrant in this country. Against that background, and with an alleged £6 billion overspend on asylum seekers, is it the Government’s policy to continue to house migrants in hotels for another three years?

£6 billion, could make a considerable difference to the UK's finances.

Has very little to do with my point.

 

[Brigadier]

Such as?

Leave him, it gives him something to cling to

 

[diy_fun_uk]

Some ill infromed Farragists believe they form a large part of the UKs ills.
They won't be able to back that up though.

As my other posts in various threads will support, I am all for much tougher controls around the migrant situation. Where I stop though is crossing the line into this fantasy land that asserts they (the migrants) are thee overarching issue, causing most of the ills. Logically, they're not, hence why I give it no truck.

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[denso13]

https://hansard.parliament.uk/Lords/2024-10-09/debates/60F7EDDD-3EC4-4BF6-82FE-1AEC24F3B52D/IllegalMigrants

I welcome the noble Lord to his position. On one day this week more than 970 migrants crossed the channel. Up to 745,000 illegal migrants are currently in the UK. One in 100 of the population—more than in any other European country—is a migrant in this country. Against that background, and with an alleged £6 billion overspend on asylum seekers, is it the Government’s policy to continue to house migrants in hotels for another three years?

£6 billion, could make a considerable difference to the UK's finances.

Some excellent answers on the debate, which you omitted.

 

[MNW67]

Currently, the £6 billion is coming out of the foreign aid budget. As it stands, It wouldn't make any difference to the NHS etc.

 

[MNW67]

As my other posts in various threads will support, I am all for much tougher controls around the migrant situation. Where I stop though is crossing the line into this fantasy land that asserts they (the migrants) are thee overarching issue, causing most of the ills. Logically, they're not, hence why I give it no truck.

That's pretty much my position as well.

 

[Highway Man]

Currently, the £6 billion is coming out of the foreign aid budget. As it stands, It wouldn't make any difference to the NHS etc.

It does when you cannot get a Drs appointment or see a specialist because they are added to the waiting list.

 

[MNW67]

It does when you cannot get a Drs appointment or see a specialist because they are added to the waiting list.

I hadn't thought of that angle.

 

[Mottie]

It does when you cannot get a Drs appointment or see a specialist because they are added to the waiting list.

Don’t you mean added to the front of the waiting list?

 

[Highway Man]

Don’t you mean added to the front of the waiting list?

I didn't like to upset the lefty's too much

 

[denso13]

It does when you cannot get a Drs appointment or see a specialist because they are added to the waiting list.

Migration has dropped by 430,000 in the last year. If you are right then there should be a lot more appointments available.