I want to do this safely!
Socket from downlight circuit. Is it possible?
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Yes... ring final circuit, actually
Kind Regards, John
I did type the full term, having considered adding Winston’s word “cables”, but that looked even worse.
So eventually opted for the …
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It is very true. Take your head out of the sand and think. Someone may turn off the socket circuits to work on that socket without realising it is on the light circuit. Yes I know one should check for dead but…..
that this is Winston1's opinion.......
Take your fingers off the keyboard and think about what is fact and what is opinion.
You cannot have something that is very true. Either it’s true, or it isn’t.
I respect your opinion, and your right to have that opinion. However, as has been said, you really should always make it clear that it IS your opinion, and not fact or regulation. If you're trying to minimise the amount of typing you do, you could always use "IMO".
I know what you are saying John. You yourself have often said the regs don’t make sense. This is a good example and what I can’t understand is why so many sparks just want to follow this nonsense reg like a load of sheep.
...because we have worked out that it doesn't make any difference.
I say again - do you limit the number of sockets on your 32A circuits to two so that no one can plug in more load than the MCB rating?
My opinion is, indeed, that some of the regulations don't appear to make sense - but I have hopefully never intentionally said, or even implied, that such was anything other than my my personal opinion.
I don't think one can be too critical of people who, in any field, abide by the relevant regulations/laws/whatever, even if they disagree with those laws/regulations and/or think that they make no sense.
You can write whatever you like about your own views/opinions, provided only that you make it clear that they are your opinions. That's particularly true when (as with BS1363 sockets on lighting circuits) your opinion conflicts with what the relevant regulations say.
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Which is fair enough.
If it is reasonably practical to do so, it is preferable for circuits to be arranged in a "least surprise" manner. A 13A socket on the lighting circuit or a socket on a circuit that is "out of area" (e.g. a downstairs socket on an upstairs circuit) goes against least surprise. Equally though, it's impossible to fully protect "idiots with tools" from the consequences of their actions.
One must therefore decide how much if-any additional work and disruption one is prepared to incur in the name of least surprise and/or what other mitigating measures one wants to put into place (for example additional labeling).
Why the 6amp fuse or a fused spur? The circuit is most likely already protected by a 6amp MCB, just wire a socket up to it, job done.
I have said no. Overloading a socket circuit will not plunge a house into darkness. Nor will someone working on it turn off the wrong circuit.
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