Sorry, but this is important.

[Highway Man]

You've just lost this definition:



The answer to both of those questions is "no".

So what do you have left - what characteristics do you think a woman has to have?

WRONG
If you were born a female at birth then you are a woman. End of!!!

 

[morqthana]

A woman can menstrate (normally) a man cannot and does not, a woman can give birth (normally) a man cannot.

So on what basis do you decide that a particular, individual woman, who cannot menstruate or give birth is a woman? It can't be that other people can do those because we're talking about a specific person who can't.

Then there are the obvious differences.

What about people where the "obvious differences" are not obvious but are ambiguous. How do you classify them?

 

[Highway Man]

So on what basis do you decide that a particular, individual woman, who cannot menstruate or give birth is a woman? It can't be that other people can do those because we're talking about a specific person who can't.




What about people where the "obvious differences" are not obvious but are ambiguous. How do you classify them?

Such as?

 

[morqthana]

WRONG
If you were born a female at birth then you are a woman. End of!!!

All I'm doing is asking you to define what characteristics someone has to have to be a woman. First you say that it's someone who can menstruate or give birth, then you say it's wrong to say that someone who can't do those things isn't a woman. The logic there can only be that being able to menstruate or give birth is irrelevant.

So we're back to the question - what characteristics does someone have to have to be classified as female?

 

[Highway Man]

All I'm doing is asking you to define what characteristics someone has to have to be a woman. First you say that it's someone who can menstruate or give birth, then you say it's wrong to say that someone who can't do those things isn't a woman. The logic there can only be that being able to menstruate or give birth is irrelevant.

So we're back to the question - what characteristics does someone have to have to be classified as female?

OMG if you really want to go deeper than the obvious then a woman has two X chromasones and a male has XY chromosones, a woman has larger hips for child birth so you need to look at the skeleton. There is no need to go this far though, it is simple to know the difference. A man may think he is a woman but that is all in his head. The biological differences cannot be hidden.

 

[morqthana]

Such as?

Such as the ones you were talking about.

 

[morqthana]

OMG if you really want to go deeper than the obvious then a woman has two X chromasones and a male has XY chromosones,

So how do you classify someone who has neither two X chromosomes nor an X and a Y?

 

[pete01]

 

[Koolpc]

Thank you for a considered and useful contribution to the debate.

No problem....