Sorry, but this is important.

[morqthana]

Therefore, according to you, menopausal women, or those who have had a hysterectomy are no longer women.

And equally "therefore", ones born without a womb.

 

[pete01]

Where is this going? A 50 year old woman who has lived as a woman all her life has a hysterectomy, she is definitely still a woman.

A man who feels like he wants to be a woman, although I feel for them and it must be terrible, isnt a woman.

Am I wrong?

A woman boxer want to be a man would she be fighting anthony joshua any time soon?

Come on people, men and women are built differently.

 

[morqthana]

Yes if you are struggling with that definition I will point out the obvious to you. Do they menstrate can they give birth, if the answer is yes to either of those questions then they are a female.

And what if the answer to both of those questions is 'no'? What happens to your definition then?

Have you heard of primary amenorrhea? Mayer–Rokitansky–Küster–Hauser syndrome?

 

[morqthana]

If a trans woman/biological man with a beard wants to walk down the high street in a dress that’s one thing. But they shouldn’t be in changing spaces and toilets with female adults and children.

How many such people are there? Are there any outside the swivel-eyed imaginings of the right-wing media.

This is the reality of what a trans woman who wants to use womens facilities looks like:

not this:

Especially not on the basis that they are for all purposes a woman. That is a legal fiction promoted by politicians on the make (Kieth included) who saw it as a no cost sop to the left.

No, that's not true.

 

[morqthana]

People who are not women are not entitled to access spaces and events that are reserved exclusively for women.

A statement with no meaning or value unless accompanied by an explanation of what characteristics you are using to define "women".

It's a statement you've made several times, with minor variations, and yet you have never been willing (or able) to define "women" in its context.

 

[morqthana]

@morqthana @King Billy
Come on guys you are either twins or one person?

Neither.

I wish I could understand why some people here are so utterly convinced that different opinions to theirs are so vanishingly rare that it is simply inconceivable that two individual people could each be independently in disagreement with them.

 

[pete01]

Neither.

I wish I could understand why some people here are so utterly convinced that different opinions to theirs are so vanishingly rare that it is simply inconceivable that two individual people could each be independently in disagreement with them.

You just seem very similar.

My mistake

 

[JohnD]

Morqthana really, really doesn't like this fact:

"People who are not women are not entitled to access spaces and events that are reserved exclusively for women."

Does anybody seriously believe that he doesn't know what a woman is?

Clue:
It is not a man.

 

[JohnD]

No idea how billy can be so confused as to what a man and a woman is. If you have to have all of the details spelled out to you we are living in a very strange world.

I think he's just pretending not to know.

Like Morqthana, who pretends that a married man, wearing holey boxer shorts in a women's changing room, becomes entitled to be treated as a woman when he puts lipstick on.

 

[morqthana]

Since you don't accept that a man is not a woman,

You won't find anywhere where I have said that, or refused to accept it.

 

[morqthana]

All of this will not happen because people like you will bulldoze Sharia law in this country.
Do you see how much controversial boll@x you're able to vomit?

Thank you for a considered and useful contribution to the debate.

 

[morqthana]

Sorry you are so confused. There are two genders only. Biologically and scientifically so just because you are confused over your gender doesn’t mean the rest of us are.

So now you think there are two genders. The gulf between your theories and reality is getting bigger.

 

[JohnD]

The gulf between your theories and reality is getting bigger.

Your gulf to reality is far larger.

 

[JohnD]

You won't find anywhere where I have said that, or refused to accept it.

Here is Morqthana refusing to accept my simple and straightforward statement of fact. He pretends not to know that a man is not a woman.

It would be interesting to see him attempt to define a woman in a way that includes a man such as Doctor Upton.

 

[JohnD]

This is the reality of what a trans woman who wants to use womens facilities looks like:

And this is what a man who wants to compete in women's weightlifting looks like.