spot the errors..

[JohnW2]

The left hand busbar has got an earth symbol above it, yet a neutral feeding it!

I presume that was the point of TTC's question. The case of the CU was clearly not intended to have as many neutral bars as this one needed - so someone (either the 'manufacturer'/ assembler or the user) has had to 'adapt it'.

Kind Regards, John

 

[dingodeano]

That is weird. The picture in their catalogue is the other way round.

http://www.proteusswitchgear.co.uk/downloads/proteuscatalogue-websections-consumerunitdivision.pdf

p47

So where did you get it from?

pg 47 of your link.

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• dingodeano
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my board

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• dingodeano
• 19 Jan 2013
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look same to me.
i got it from C.E.F.

 

[dingodeano]

..

 

[dingodeano]

Going back to that board.

Is that a do it yourself "17th Edition" board?

Maybe that's why the busbar numbering is wrong, 'cos somebody chopped up the busbars to make two neutral bars?

DIY as in I did it ? No. Straight from wholesaler. .

The left hand busbar has got an earth symbol above it, yet a neutral feeding it!

I presume that was the point of TTC's question. The case of the CU was clearly not intended to have as many neutral bars as this one needed - so someone (either the 'manufacturer'/ assembler or the user) has had to 'adapt it'.

Kind Regards, John

i despair.

 

[DetlefSchmitz]

That is weird. The picture in their catalogue is the other way round.

http://www.proteusswitchgear.co.uk/downloads/proteuscatalogue-websections-consumerunitdivision.pdf

p47

So where did you get it from?

pg 47 of your link.

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• dingodeano
• 20 Jan 2013
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• dingodeano
• 19 Jan 2013
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look same to me.
i got it from C.E.F.

If you look at the L and N markings at the top of the main switch in the catalogue picture, they are the correct way round. On your unit the markings are back to front.

 

[dingodeano]

oh. yes its just a sticker it had been put on upside down.I thought you were on about earth/neutral bar.

 

[JohnW2]

DIY as in I did it ? No. Straight from wholesaler. .

I presume that was the point of TTC's question. The case of the CU was clearly not intended to have as many neutral bars as this one needed - so someone (either the 'manufacturer'/ assembler or the user) has had to 'adapt it'.

i despair.

I think that's very unfair, and your despair unfounded. I was indicating what I understood as the thinking (that CU had been adapted/modified either by the supplier or yourself) behind TTC's question, obviously before you answered his question. You have subsequently indicated that it wasn't you - so that leaves only one possibility! Despite what your defensiveness seems to imply you think, no-one is pointing any fingers at you.

Kind Regards, John

 

[dingodeano]

I don't know what 85% of your post meant. But I understood not pointing finger bit. Thx.

 

[JohnW2]

I don't know what 85% of your post meant. But I understood not pointing finger bit. Thx.

You're welcome, but the other 85% was not really complicated. I was merely saying that TTC was presumably assuming that either the supplier or yourself must have adapted an 'old' enclosure to take more neutral bars than it was designed for - so that once you indicated it was not you that had done it, that only left the supplier!

Kind Regards, John

 

[SimonH2]

Quite apart from the interesting matter (labelling) being discussed, isn't the amount of space (or lack of it) below the MCBs a bit ridiculous?

I'd rather have usable space on the load side of the breakers than useless space that isn't needed for the live bar.

But that setup is just dangerous - IMO it should be banned and all stock pulled off the shelves. Can't see importer/distributor caring much.

Easy to see how the neutral/earth labelling has got so screwed up. It's clearly a non-split board moulding wise that's been adapted for split board use.

But who to report it to ?

 

[Iggifer]

That little board was £50 +v.

Fully populated I hope?

You could have fitted this:

http://www.screwfix.com/p/mk-sentry-16-module-10-way-dual-rcd-consumer-unit-with-8-mcbs/40025#

(that's actually a pretty good deal)

 

[JohnW2]

Quite apart from the interesting matter (labelling) being discussed, isn't the amount of space (or lack of it) below the MCBs a bit ridiculous?

I'd rather have usable space on the load side of the breakers than useless space that isn't needed for the live bar.

'Within reason', I would agree (particularly in this day of RCBOs), but I personally think this one goes a bit beyond 'within reason'. As we've seen, it makes connecting 'tails' to the load side of the main switch, and RCDs neutrals, a bit of a mission - and it would also be quite fun if there were bottom-entry cables.

Easy to see how the neutral/earth labelling has got so screwed up. It's clearly a non-split board moulding wise that's been adapted for split board use. But who to report it to ?

Quite.

Kind Regards, John

 

[RF Lighting]

This thread should be made a sticky to warn people off using proteus.

Even those 50 quid BG CUs that B&Q are knocking out are better quality than this tat.

It says it all when their RCBOs don't actually fit all their CUs

I took great pleasure in ripping this junk out and fitting a proper CU in it's place.

 

[Sherbertlion]

This thread should be made a sticky to warn people off using proteus.

Even those 50 quid BG CUs that B&Q are knocking out are better quality than this tat.

It says it all when their RCBOs don't actually fit all their CUs

I took great pleasure in ripping this junk out and fitting a proper CU in it's place.

I couldn't agree more RF, but surely that's just a limp wristed installer on the neutral bar in that pic rather than the fact that it's a Proteus?! I have pics of other makes of CU that I still happily fit that look the same as that (not my installs obviuosly!)

 

[RF Lighting]

It was where the vertical neutral copper link met the neutral terminal rail, the copper bar had fractured.

It was a portakabin type building, so probably caused by vibration during delivery, but still nice to confine another proteus to the bin.