Still funny even now

[durhamplumber]

So is the fall of the Roman Empire, but that's not relevant either.

History is only relavent when you decide then?? Ignore history at your Peril..!

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

Not irrelavent as it relates the point I am making effectively.

Not really, you said progress is not necessarily positive. Clearly it is.
If you meant change is not always positive, you should have said that.

 

[durhamplumber]

eradication of structural inequality

It is not being eradicated..The gaps are growing.

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

History is only relavent when you decide then?? Ignore history at your Peril..!

Please explain how you think Mary Whitehouse is relevant to the progress made in the struggle for equality.

 

[durhamplumber]

Not really, you said progress is not necessarily positive. Clearly it is.
If you meant change is not always positive, you should have said that.

I have corrected it Razzler..

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

It is not being eradicated..The gaps are growing.

You think there is more structural inequality now than there was forty years ago?
Or are we just more aware of it?

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

I have corrected it Razzler..

Have you?

All progress is not positive..

 

[durhamplumber]

Change then...Not all change,dressed up as progress is as it seems.

Clearly you are not paying attention.

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

Clearly you are not paying attention.

Then you haven't corrected your original erroneous statement, you have amended your argument. See the difference?

 

[Brigadier]

If it's not progress it's hardly positive.

Surely that depends on your perspective of what is progress, and what is positive.

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

The dictionary definition doesn't have a subjective element.

 

[Brigadier]

The dictionary definition doesn't have a subjective element.

The definition you choose does, though.

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

The definition you choose does, though.

Not really. For sure, we could have a hypothetical discussion about which "changes" can be considered as progress. But when people agree that the changes are progress, then it's an improvement, an advancement.

Consider the following two questions:
How is the progress going?
How are the changes going?

One question implies improvement or advancement, the other doesn't.

 

[Brigadier]

The definition you choose does, though.

Not really. For sure, we could have a hypothetical discussion about which "changes" can be considered as progress. But when people agree that the changes are progress, then it's an improvement, an advancement.

progress

forward or onward movement towards a destination.
"the darkness did not stop my progress."

develop towards an improved or more advanced condition.

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

.

I'm not sure what your point is, but if it is about the two definitions of progress, maybe I confused the issue a little.
When I first copied and pasted the definition, I accidentally copied a whole load of garbage with it, and I had to subsequently crop a lot of it out.
Here is the original. You'll see that both definitions refer to advancement.