Street Party Madness

[securespark]

Yes. You can't compare NZ with the UK.

 

[ellal]

... but Bodd,

you say you have travelled all over the world, lived in Australia and only came back because you didn't like it there.

Do you not see the irony?

Isn't it amazing how many people who have enjoyed freedom of movement themselves want it now to be denied to others

 

[motorbiking]

We have to remind ourselves what the lockdown is for. It isn't to stop people catching the virus and reduce the death rate. It is to slow the progress of the virus to avoid more people needing treatment for severe symptoms, than the NHS can cope with. The unavoidable deaths being prevented are those who the NHS could not treat due to capacity issues. We appear to have peaked without overwhelming the NHS.

Sadly, until there are better drugs, if the virus has got your number, its got your number. If you are a high risk person then you need to keep isolated. There are a few things we could have done early on. But lockdown earlier wouldn't have made any difference. The issue was importing the virus and repatriating infected people.

 

[noseall]

That's 3 times you've told me I can't compare Nz with the UK. That's 3 times now I've said that I am not. Any more?

And stays strangely quiet about Germany.

 

[motorbiking]

Germany isn't unexplained. The low death rate is largely down to the avg. age of the person catching it. They have done a better job of keeping the old people isolated. Avg age of Covid patient in Germany is 49 vs 62 elsewhere. That makes a massive difference to mortality.

 

[Bodd]

it is live, 24/7, the more yellow things the greater the danger

Amazing. What must it have been like

 

[Bodd]

... but Bodd,

you say you have travelled all over the world, lived in Australia and only came back because you didn't like it there.

Do you not see the irony?

Theres no irony
I haven't travelled the world.
. I've scratched it..... I love other people's cultures I enjoyed people good people.
Regardless of colour or creed.
Not wanting people Crammed
together like sardines for the benifit of the privileged is not irony.

Please don't tar me as one of those who is full of hate.

 

[Mottie]

Isn't it amazing how many people who have enjoyed freedom of movement themselves want it now to be denied to others

I wouldn’t like it denied to you. You are free to leave the U.K. anytime you like.

wait for it.....

it’s coming......

3........

2........

1........

 

[noseall]

They have done a better job

Correct.

 

[noseall]

Not wanting people Crammed

In cities you mean - since time began?

 

[durhamplumber]

Had Boris acted and the numbers infected & deaths low then am pretty sure Boris would've been praised

It is a knocking bet Notch and Gal would still have run him down.You just plucking ideas out of thin air with no idea what difference it would have made.

 

[durhamplumber]

and the rules & police stricter

Some of you Whingers are stir crazy..Stricter police,,stricter rules...half population takin g no notice ,,,ffs people going mad already on here saying they too strict,,,,give over.

 

[fillyboy]

We have to remind ourselves what the lockdown is for. It isn't to stop people catching the virus and reduce the death rate. It is to slow the progress of the virus to avoid more people needing treatment for severe symptoms, than the NHS can cope with. The unavoidable deaths being prevented are those who the NHS could not treat due to capacity issues. We appear to have peaked without overwhelming the NHS.

Sadly, until there are better drugs, if the virus has got your number, its got your number. If you are a high risk person then you need to keep isolated. There are a few things we could have done early on. But lockdown earlier wouldn't have made any difference. The issue was importing the virus and repatriating infected people.

Middle of last week Trelisk hospital (Truro) had 16 covid patients, very low numbers in this part of the world still.

 

[fillyboy]

Germany isn't unexplained. The low death rate is largely down to the avg. age of the person catching it. They have done a better job of keeping the old people isolated. Avg age of Covid patient in Germany is 49 vs 62 elsewhere. That makes a massive difference to mortality.

And there was me thinking it was because VW were doing the testing.

 

[Brigadier]

We have to remind ourselves what the lockdown is for. It isn't to stop people catching the virus and reduce the death rate. It is to slow the progress of the virus to avoid more people needing treatment for severe symptoms, than the NHS can cope with. The unavoidable deaths being prevented are those who the NHS could not treat due to capacity issues. We appear to have peaked without overwhelming the NHS.

Sadly, until there are better drugs, if the virus has got your number, its got your number. If you are a high risk person then you need to keep isolated. There are a few things we could have done early on. But lockdown earlier wouldn't have made any difference. The issue was importing the virus and repatriating infected people.

R5L this morning. A doctor said that, if you need invasive treatment in hospital, your chances are less than 50 / 50.
So, without effective vaccine or treatment, everyone's only hope is not catching it. Even if you do get a hospital bed, there's no guarantee you'll walk out of it later.

Mortality rate is quoted at about 1 to 3%.
For a population of 70 million, that's between 700k and 2.1 million deaths.
So, if we all catch it, that's a lot of direct CV deaths, whether they all occur over the course of the next few weeks, months , or years.