Someone who's terminal then yes I agree thats their choice but Im on about the ar*eholes who want to kill themselves and their children for instance because jeremy kyle was having a summer break or something just as stupid
So if someone is dying of cancer and they end their own life, they are cowards?
Much braver to die in agony and not be shamed being branded a coward eh...
Whats your view on the bushido honor code, seppuku?
Suicide.
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We've all been there cap'n.
The reason differ's for everyone. In my opinion cowardice doesn't come into it.
Exactly Norcon its that type of person Im on about.
No 'probably' about it.
They can't live without their kids, and can't see anything past that.
So he take's them with him.
Now, YES, that's selfish. But not what I meant.
Why is it a cowards way out?
People can find themselves in very dark places and it doesn't always need a major issue to trigger it.
Perhaps the cowards are the friends and relatives who fail to help and support?
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Bloke from school hung himself from the now almost traditional hanging tree in the local area. It's right next to the school and a few blokes have done it there. Felt bad for him as he was a nice guy but had absolutely nothing going for him.
A mates brother hung himself after his wife left him. I thought he was weak for doing it, he had a long time to come to terms with the fact she was a cheating whore, maybe there was more to it than that, we will never know now.
Another mate once said he would be more disappointed that his kids couldn't come to him for help than the actual suicide part.
A mates brother hung himself after his wife left him. I thought he was weak for doing it, he had a long time to come to terms with the fact she was a cheating whore, maybe there was more to it than that, we will never know now.
Another mate once said he would be more disappointed that his kids couldn't come to him for help than the actual suicide part.
Suicide is not the actions of a coward, who knows what ones breaking point is? your problems can be that you cannot see the wood for the tree's and suicide is the only way out. It could be marital, financial or a painful terminal illness. In 1950 when I was aged nine my dad committed suicide by gassing himself, his suicide note stated that he could not carry on after what he endured as a Japanese prisoner of war.
My father committed suicide when I was younger and founded him, from what I remember, I know he was angry about what happened during the Japanese war and it was a sore subject for him to talk about it. Did have deep depression and did mentioned to me a big dark black hole couldn't see way out of it and went on to say nobody would understand depression unless you're suffering from it. Also suffered badly from Parkinson's Disease. I have learnt a lot about suicide at the time and normally it's done in a heat of moment but not always and I think it's a very brave thing to do, they cannot think about their family as they are too ill to cope. I know the Parkinson's Disease may have been leading up to it but it was really the dark depression that he couldn't live with.
Did Copywriter for a living and also did part-time writing for some gags in "The Goon Show" Also kept his dairy of his life, some of it sad
Don't worry about me talking about it, I'm over it now
Suicide is the culmination of perhaps many months of thought, lots of people cannot bare their souls so suicide is the only way out for them and yes there is the collateral damage of family members shocked and stunned. The worst part of suicide is when someone kills their kids and then take their own lives that is hard for me to reconcile myself with, why do they do it? To spite their wife/husband or what?
I too have been directly affected by the result of suicide.
Although I live with a kind of guilt for that every single day, I never once thought of it as selfishness or cowardice.
I always thought of it as a tortured soul at peace now.
Perhaps if there is any selfishness, it comes from the people left behind. I don't know.
Although I live with a kind of guilt for that every single day, I never once thought of it as selfishness or cowardice.
I always thought of it as a tortured soul at peace now.
Perhaps if there is any selfishness, it comes from the people left behind. I don't know.
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Oddly enough I can fully understand how someone in the final throes of their agonies would not want their children to suffer the loss of a parent, so killing the children is (in his eyes) an act of kindness and tough love..
An alternative explanation could also be that the person about to top himself has come to the conclusion of the complete futility of life and doesn't want his children to suffer this angst also.
It's too easy to bander the word "selfish" around. There is a huge difference between those who suicide through circumstances building up and have to run away, and those who suicide since they have come to a complete recognition of the pointlessness of it all and whose actions is a necessary corollary of this enlightenment.
An alternative explanation could also be that the person about to top himself has come to the conclusion of the complete futility of life and doesn't want his children to suffer this angst also.
It's too easy to bander the word "selfish" around. There is a huge difference between those who suicide through circumstances building up and have to run away, and those who suicide since they have come to a complete recognition of the pointlessness of it all and whose actions is a necessary corollary of this enlightenment.
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You might be surprised to find that at any one time, around 12% (or about 1/8th ) of the UK population are suffering anxiety or depression, which needs medical treatment.
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