The prime minister will launch a website later

[IWalkLikeHimaMartian]

"
UK must act against race inequality, Theresa May says"
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-41560927

Cue the RWR spouting that there is no racial inequality.

 

[Ian H]

There isn't though is there. Anybody can do anything they like in this country.

 

[JohnD]

You mean, like get a job, get an apprenticeship, get into a prestigious university, become a TV presenter, become a Guards officer?

 

[Notch7]

Cue the RWR spouting that there is no racial inequality.

Why would you say that?

and R.W.R. -what are you using the last R to be standing for?

 

[Ian H]

You mean, like get a job, get an apprenticeship, get into a prestigious university, become a TV presenter, become a Guards officer?

Yes, all of those.

Although no idea on the guards officer, can't say I know of any of them around Rochdale.

 

[JohnD]

and you think that an identical application form or CV is treated equally when the name is changed from, say, "Smith" to "Singh" or "Choudury?"

It isn't.

How have you lived so long and not known?

 

[Ian H]

Of course it is.

And on the occasion when it isn't, I'll bet it goes both ways.

 

[Gerrydelasel]

and you think that an identical application form or CV is treated equally when the name is changed from, say, "Smith" to "Singh" or "Choudury?"

Or Zhang, Wei, or Chen?

 

[JohnD]

Sorry, I thought everyone knew.

"Black and ethnic names have less chance of making shortlist
Bias means that well-qualified candidates struggle to get a foot in the door"
https://www.ft.com/content/83cac990-182a-11e6-b197-a4af20d5575e

"When Kayo Anosike embarked on a career change, she studied for a masters degree in business psychology at the University of Westminster. She then sent out her CV to prospective employers — and heard nothing.When Kayla Benjamin lost her job and retrained for a new career in the corporate world, she, too, did a masters in business psychology at the same university. A mere 10 days after sending out her CV, she secured a new job.Kayla was delighted, relieved and mildly shocked. Kayo felt exactly the same way — because they were, and are, one and the same person."

"Job applications in British cities from people with white sounding names were 74% more likely to receive a positive response than applications from people with an ethnic minority name. That's according to 2009 research from NatCen Social Research, commissioned by the government."
https://fullfact.org/economy/job-ap...ng-names-are-less-likely-be-called-interview/

"A government sting operation targeting hundreds of employers across Britain has uncovered widespread racial discrimination against workers with African and Asian names.

Researchers sent nearly 3,000 job applications under false identities in an attempt to discover if employers were discriminating against jobseekers with foreign names"
https://www.theguardian.com/money/2009/oct/18/racism-discrimination-employment-undercover

"New Zealand-based Paul Spoonley, a researcher at Massey University, says there is significant name and accent discrimination exhibited by employers in New Zealand that can be tied to assumptions around ethnicity."
http://www.bbc.com/capital/story/20160915-should-you-change-your-name-to-get-a-job

I applied for five positions at various universities around the UK, all within my area of expertise. Out of the five applications, my whitened résumé was shortlisted four times, compared with my normal résumé, which on all five occasions received the “we regret to inform you” copy-and-paste email that I have received previously.
https://www.timeshighereducation.co...-i-use-white-name-when-applying-academic-jobs

It seems to happen in all countries
https://www.chicagobooth.edu/pdf/bertrand.pdf

http://www.npr.org/sections/codeswi...last-names-lead-to-fewer-job-interviews-still

"Meet Khadija Diouf. She is 24 years old, she’s single, she lives in France and she has spent the last three years working in secretarial and accounting jobs. Her surname tells us that she’s descended from Senegalese immigrants, and her first name strongly suggests that she’s Muslim. Hundreds of employers across France will have seen Khadija’s name and none of them would have known the most important thing about her: she doesn’t exist."
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/n...ination-against-muslims-in-french-job-market/

 

[JohnD]

"In the mid 1980s, Prince Charles made it clear he wanted to see black and Asian soldiers among those on duty and change began. Soon afterwards, Richard Stokes was recruited, the only black man among 7,000 white soldiers."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/5333874.stm

""The first day I got to the camp in Northern Ireland I went into the Mess Hall. Of the three or four hundred guardsmen in there most of them just got up and walked out.

"The others threw bananas at me, stubbed their cigarettes out in my food, called me names - ******, coon. Before I left the army I was receiving hate mail from guardsmen in two other battalions on a regular basis."

"He returned to Buckingham Palace in July to watch the ceremony, 16 years after leaving. There was only one black guardsman on parade."

 

[JohnD]

"Algerian-born Salim Zakhrouf applied to Cathay Pacific for a job as a passenger services officer at Heathrow Airport.

Mr Zakhrouf, 38, who has lived in Britain since 1991 and is a UK citizen, was told by email he had not been selected for interview.

But applying 48 hours later as 'Ian Woodhouse' with an identical CV and home address, he was invited for an interview by the same personnel officer who had first refused him. "

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...efused-job-accuses-airline-bosses-racism.html

"'I have applied seven times for jobs at Cathay in the past three years and I have been rejected every time."

 

[Notch7]

"Algerian-born Salim Zakhrouf applied to Cathay Pacific for a job as a passenger services officer at Heathrow Airport.

Mr Zakhrouf, 38, who has lived in Britain since 1991 and is a UK citizen, was told by email he had not been selected for interview.

But applying 48 hours later as 'Ian Woodhouse' with an identical CV and home address, he was invited for an interview by the same personnel officer who had first refused him. "

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...efused-job-accuses-airline-bosses-racism.html

"'I have applied seven times for jobs at Cathay in the past three years and I have been rejected every time."

Quoting from your newspaper of choice I see

 

[JohnD]

some of the RWRs refuse to look at links for anything that doesn't reinforce their beliefs.

Consider it a gift.

 

[Gerrydelasel]

If I lived in China I wouldn't be surprised if I had to adopt a Chinese name in order to fit in better with their culture.

 

[JohnD]

and do you think that we should implement equivalent levels of racial and ethic discrimination to those you dreamed up? Perhaps we should model ourselves on Serbia.

Or perhaps not.