The Truth is Out There

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That's the one always good for a laugh is our Owen, not sure it's always meant intentionally.

I'm sure he does have good intentions, but we know where they can lead...

 

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Mexican senators have heard testimony that “we are not alone” in the universe and been presented with the alleged remains of “non-human” mummies, in the country’s first official event on extraterrestrial life.

At a senate hearing on Tuesday, lawmakers were shown two shriveled bodies with shrunken heads – alongside video footage of “unexplained anomalous phenomena” – by Jaime Maussan, a sports journalist turned UFO enthusiast. Maussan said the remains were more than 1,000 years old and belonged to “non-human beings that are not part of our terrestrial evolution”.

“It’s the queen of all evidence,” Maussan claimed. “That is, if the DNA is showing us that they are non-human beings and that there is nothing that looks like this in the world, we should take it as such.”

too much peyote and tequila @ the Grundiandia

 

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It's all a ball confusion what is the actual actuality of all that happens in the world and who pulls the strings.

Event 201 | Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security

The Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security in partnership with the World Economic Forum and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation hosted Event 201, a high-level pandemic exercise on October 18, 2019, in New York, NY.

centerforhealthsecurity.org

Naomi Klein examines the mushrooming of conspiracism in her new book Doppelganger, noting that people often come under its sway because they are searching for a practical solution to a sense of unfairness. Conspiracists have a “fantasy of justice”, hoping that the evil-doing elites can be arrested and stopped. “Conspiracy theorists get the facts wrong but often get the feelings right,” she writes. “The feeling that every human misery is someone else’s profit … the feeling that important truths are being hidden.” She quotes digital journalism scholar Marcus Gilroy-Ware’s conclusion that: “Conspiracy theories are a misfiring of a healthy and justifiable political instinct: suspicion.”

When Covid triggered a popularity surge for conspiracy theorists, Lee was already done with it, and simply noted that if there really was a global movement working to establish a new world order through the pandemic, they were going about it in a strikingly ill-coordinated and muddled manner. “The governments weren’t acting in lockstep with each other. There was no well-oiled machine; it was disorganised. No one was in charge.”

He understands why other people were attracted to the idea: “Just like 9/11 brought people into conspiracies, Covid was another moment when people were scared and wanted answers, and they found conspiracy influencers saying: ‘Don’t worry about it, it’s not real.’”

Escape from the rabbit hole@the Grundiaan

 

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Naomi Klein examines the mushrooming of conspiracism in her new book Doppelganger, noting that people often come under its sway because they are searching for a practical solution to a sense of unfairness. Conspiracists have a “fantasy of justice”, hoping that the evil-doing elites can be arrested and stopped. “Conspiracy theorists get the facts wrong but often get the feelings right,” she writes. “The feeling that every human misery is someone else’s profit … the feeling that important truths are being hidden.” She quotes digital journalism scholar Marcus Gilroy-Ware’s conclusion that: “Conspiracy theories are a misfiring of a healthy and justifiable political instinct: suspicion.”

When Covid triggered a popularity surge for conspiracy theorists, Lee was already done with it, and simply noted that if there really was a global movement working to establish a new world order through the pandemic, they were going about it in a strikingly ill-coordinated and muddled manner. “The governments weren’t acting in lockstep with each other. There was no well-oiled machine; it was disorganised. No one was in charge.”

He understands why other people were attracted to the idea: “Just like 9/11 brought people into conspiracies, Covid was another moment when people were scared and wanted answers, and they found conspiracy influencers saying: ‘Don’t worry about it, it’s not real.’”

Escape from the rabbit hole@the Grundiaan

Probably the same explanations for why religion was invented.
Because natrure, fate, the universe is unpredictable and inexplicable. Yet people still wanted answers for "why".
Events can be described in intimate detail, but the explanation for why they happen is inexplicable.
Religion, like conspiracy theories attempts to provide an explanation for why.
There are no explantions for why some natural, fateful things happen, they just do.

 

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Religion has the square root of F.all to do with it.

 

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Religion has the square root of F.all to do with it.

The square root of zero is still zero, nothing has changed.
I was suggesting that religion was invented to provide answers to inexplicable events. Rather like conspiracy theories also replace inexplicable events or even logic.
I wasn't claiming that religion or conspiracy theories were connected in any way. There' just different strategies for dealing with various inexplicable events.

 

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Religion wasn't 'invented' in any sense. It grew out of human evolution as Mind adapted to the growing awareness of the environment people found themselves living, and coming to terms with their own mortality within it.
A conspiracy theorist sees a shadow fall on the ground and perceives a pattern that coincides with their paranoia about the world constructed around them.
There's a difference.

 

[Roy Bloom]

Religion wasn't 'invented' in any sense. It grew out of human evolution as Mind adapted to the growing awareness of the environment people found themselves living, and coming to terms with their own mortality within it.
A conspiracy theorist sees a shadow fall on the ground and perceives a pattern that coincides with their paranoia about the world constructed around them.
There's a difference.

I did use invented in a figurative sense.

Is there a difference in the phenomena of religion and conspiracy theories? I'm not convinced.
They are both the result of inexplicable events? And, or the paranoia connected with those events.

 

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The new religion?

Oh Lordy!

 

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Naomi Klein examines the mushrooming of conspiracism in her new book Doppelganger, noting that people often come under its sway because they are searching for a practical solution to a sense of unfairness. Conspiracists have a “fantasy of justice”, hoping that the evil-doing elites can be arrested and stopped. “Conspiracy theorists get the facts wrong but often get the feelings right,” she writes. “The feeling that every human misery is someone else’s profit … the feeling that important truths are being hidden.” She quotes digital journalism scholar Marcus Gilroy-Ware’s conclusion that: “Conspiracy theories are a misfiring of a healthy and justifiable political instinct: suspicion.”

When Covid triggered a popularity surge for conspiracy theorists, Lee was already done with it, and simply noted that if there really was a global movement working to establish a new world order through the pandemic, they were going about it in a strikingly ill-coordinated and muddled manner. “The governments weren’t acting in lockstep with each other. There was no well-oiled machine; it was disorganised. No one was in charge.”

He understands why other people were attracted to the idea: “Just like 9/11 brought people into conspiracies, Covid was another moment when people were scared and wanted answers, and they found conspiracy influencers saying: ‘Don’t worry about it, it’s not real.’”

Escape from the rabbit hole@the Grundiaan

Rather than damping down any conspirac ies that meeting sent them into overdrive given the attendees.

 

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The new religion?

Oh Lordy!

Jeez us wept what a bunch of MIs fits

 

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Rather than damping down any conspirac ies that meeting sent them into overdrive given the attendees.

Witch meeting, old prune?

Alexandre Alaphilippe, executive director of EU DisinfoLab, a Brussels-based NGO, has invited Lee to speak to academics and regulators at a conference on tackling the spread of online misinformation. “Policy researchers sometimes forget the real impact on human lives. We’re no longer talking about minor fringe movements; radicalisation is spreading through a complex system of beliefs. It’s not something that should be taken lightly,” he says.

Now Lee is trying to help other conspiracy theorists to question their worldview. He will address a conference in Poland on disinformation in October, and has launched a podcast unpicking why he held these beliefs so fervently and why he was so deluded.

His speech in Poland will be important, in the context of Russian disinformation spreading through Eastern Europe. Alphillipe is right: the harmless pranks spreading ridiculous tales about Aliens and Conspiracies has reached a much wider audience through the MSM thanks to Trump's MAGA mob and their affiliated acolytes.

 

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Event 201 John Hopkins centre.

 

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Jeez us wept what a bunch of MIs fits

You're joking, right?

They're just yer average 'murcan good ol' boys

 

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You're joking, right?

They're just yer average 'murcan good ol' boys

I used to converse in a faulty regular basis with some bloke called “bubba” from the states on an American car forum he owned a Pontiac GTO

He went missing after that capitol building take over caper by them trump supporters ??? He has not posted any thing since ???