Theres alot of Pidgin talk.

[Elsa TLC]

South Africa anti-immigration protests on June 30: Key places wia South Africa anti-immigration protests go happun for June 30 and wetin authorities dey do - BBC News Pidgin https://share.google/MJdTnVbIOuTJj7FA9

 

[Ivor Windybottom]

Honestly, I'd describe that language as a racist pee-take, it's just bad English. Is this supposed to be a language? Why are the BBC providing news to a foreign country anyway?

If you read it out it sounds like you're walking around a dodgy UK housing estate.

The = Di
They = Dey
Gather = Gada

 

[opps]

The BBC World Service currently broadcasts in 43(?) languages. One of those is English. It also includes Welsh and Gaelic.

The BBC world service is part of the soft power of the UK. By promoting trust, it increases the likelihood of the UK getting contracts abroad. Granted, I have no idea about the cost/benefit.

Do you take umbrage with the Beeb broadcasting in any other languages?

As an aside, I am aware that Radio 4 has just stopped broadcasting on long wave. I guess that the world service still uses it- I guess it would be too expensive to do broadcast other wise.

 

[Ivor Windybottom]

It's all old days stuff, the empire's gone. Soft power is nonsense. We don't need a state propaganda department, that's the stuff of commie regimes.

They need to make everyone producing this garbage redundant and get themselves efficient in preparation for the privatisation/closure that will be happening shortly after 2029.

 

[opps]

It's all old days stuff, the empire's gone. Soft power is nonsense. We don't need a state propaganda department, that's the stuff of commie regimes.

They need to make everyone producing this garbage redundant and get themselves efficient in preparation for the privatisation/closure that will be happening shortly after 2029.

Not sure I agree.

The commie comment? In my lifetime, labour, the liberal and conservative governments have each accused the BBC of political bias.

Apropos privatisation- do you really think that a news channel beholden to advertisers will be more honest?

 

[Brigadier]

It's all old days stuff, the empire's gone. Soft power is nonsense. We don't need a state propaganda department, that's the stuff of commie regimes.

They need to make everyone producing this garbage redundant and get themselves efficient in preparation for the privatisation/closure that will be happening shortly after 2029.

If you don't believe in "soft power", why do you bother posting on here?

 

[morqthana]

We don't need a state propaganda department

Good job we don't have one, then, isn't it.

 

[Ivor Windybottom]

The commie comment? In my lifetime, labour, the liberal and conservative governments have each accused the BBC of political bias.

Apropos privatisation- do you really think that a news channel beholden to advertisers will be more honest?

Do you know what communism is? It's where the government owns industry. E.g. a state-run broadcaster. Nothing to do with left-right bias

Everyone is "beholden" to whoever pays their bills or decides their fate - in the BBC's case, the government.

In these days it's absolutely simple for consumers to choose whether to receive ads or not. In my case I choose to pay YouTube £13 a month to be ad-free. I think it's good value, I have free choice and I don't receive threatening, misleading, bullying letters or get threats of "officers" turning up on my doorstep if I don't subscribe.

The BBC could operate in exactly the same way. The reason they don't want to and lobby against change is that they know that in reality their bureaucratic regime full of massively overpaid leeches, making garbage that the vast majority don't want to watch, wouldn't last a year if people got to choose whether to pay or not.

The whole concept of a state broadcaster and TV licence should have died about 50 years ago. There's no excuse for it at all these days.

 

[ellal]

Do you know what communism is? It's where the government owns industry.

Could you tell us what 'industry' the UK government 'owns'?

Given that all European countries (bar Belarus and Russia) have some form of democracy, and most have state owned utilities and or subsidised state owned 'industries', I guess you would then label most of Europe as communist?

 

[opps]

Do you know what communism is? It's where the government owns industry. E.g. a state-run broadcaster. Nothing to do with left-right bias

Everyone is "beholden" to whoever pays their bills or decides their fate - in the BBC's case, the government.

In these days it's absolutely simple for consumers to choose whether to receive ads or not. In my case I choose to pay YouTube £13 a month to be ad-free. I think it's good value, I have free choice and I don't receive threatening, misleading, bullying letters or get threats of "officers" turning up on my doorstep if I don't subscribe.

The BBC could operate in exactly the same way. The reason they don't want to and lobby against change is that they know that in reality their bureaucratic regime full of massively overpaid leeches, making garbage that the vast majority don't want to watch, wouldn't last a year if people got to choose whether to pay or not.

The whole concept of a state broadcaster and TV licence should have died about 50 years ago. There's no excuse for it at all these days.

You may or may not have a valid point about the TV licence...

You seem to have a very flawed understanding of communism though. Is the army communist? You have to pay for it through your taxes and are not allowed to set up your own militia with tanks and anti aircraft machines.

 

[Ivor Windybottom]

You may or may not have a valid point about the TV licence...

You seem to have a very flawed understanding of communism though. Is the army communist? You have to pay for it through your taxes and are not allowed to set up your own militia with tanks and anti aircraft machines.

You're taking things to silly extremes to try and make a non-point. In retaliation, I could suggest that you might want to see state-run supermarkets.

Communism is the government owning the means of production. Essential public services that don't have competition are often a (worthy) exception. E.g. privatising the utility companies was a stupid mistake, as you can't buy your water from a different company, and the apparent competition within energy and broadband markets is largely contrived, as you still get the same stuff down the same wires from the same source whoever's name is on the bill.

Broadcasting, entertainment and news are all already provided by commercial operators, all competing and running efficiently. The BBC doesn't have a valid purpose - everyone could still watch TV, listen to the radio and find out the news if it shut tomorrow.

It also gets to extort money from the population via legalised extortion. Their threatening letters are utterly ridiculous, they'd be shut down as a fraudulent company if they weren't part of the government.

At present you need to pay the BBC if you want to watch ITV, Sky or any other broadcaster live. While none of the money paid goes towards paying for what you're watching - it gets blown by the BBC on nonsense.

There's no logical case for the BBC continuing to exist as-is. It needs blowing up, privatising or whatever. Just stop extorting £15 a month from everyone for something that many don't want but pay for out of fear.