Those supermarket parking charges.

[joe-90]

See ya.

Just one point. If you hire a drill bit from a hire shop for a couple of quid and are ten minutes late returning it, would it be fair to be fined £85? Or late returning a book to the library fined £85? Does that sound reasonable to you?

Nah, didn't think so.

In both the above examples there is a loss as the drill bit/book could be hired out again. In the case of the car park, if I vacate the space after one hour fifty or two hours ten, there is no loss to Parking Eye as the next driver to take the space gets two hours free - hence no loss whatsoever.

 

[noseall]

See ya.

Just one point. If you hire a drill bit from a hire shop for a couple of quid and are ten minutes late returning it, would it be fair to be fined £85? Or late returning a book to the library fined £85? Does that sound reasonable to you?

No not the value of a drill bit. But if I hired an excavator and I was late returning it I'd be expected to pay a similar amount.

Also depends if you are hiring something by the hour or by the day. Our pump people charge by the hour or half hour depending upon circumstances. So I would incur charges if I go over the allotted time yes.

Also depends upon if something is in demand. Off choppin (golfing) now, speak later. Chin chin.

 

[joe-90]

But there is no value whatsoever on the parking space. Geddit yet? (he won't).

 

[Brigadier]

Still got 42 days to appeal. I'll let you know when it is actually lodged.

Are you representing him, then?

 

[jeds]

See ya.

Just one point. If you hire a drill bit from a hire shop for a couple of quid and are ten minutes late returning it, would it be fair to be fined £85? Or late returning a book to the library fined £85? Does that sound reasonable to you?

Nah, didn't think so.

In both the above examples there is a loss as the drill bit/book could be hired out again. In the case of the car park, if I vacate the space after one hour fifty or two hours ten, there is no loss to Parking Eye as the next driver to take the space gets two hours free - hence no loss whatsoever.

Hire company contracts say that equipment stays on hire until you return it so there is no late return as such. A company that charged £85 for a so-say half hour late return would not stay in business for long. But if I return a day later than expected I’d be charged extra day hire. It happens.

One way around all this is don’t use the car park at all or use it and don’t stay longer than 2 hours. That would show em.

 

[longdogs]

One thing that's been missed by everyone is that whilst the driver was receiving a fine for £85 for parking in the space for too long, it's possible he was spending £200 in one of the shops.

 

[joe-90]

If you return a library book back late you get a fine of about a pound. So if that became £85 - would people still be supporting the charge? I doubt it. It's just a rip off. Plain simple rip off. Parking Eye are the worst. There's no ticket with the time you arrived that you can put in your pocket. Just concealed signs that no-one sees.

 

[JBR]

Mod 11 just locked another thread for 'pointless squabbling', yet this one continues! Perhaps he hasn't seen it yet!

 

[joe-90]

Perhaps he knows what's good for him.

 

[noseall]

But there is no value whatsoever on the parking space. Geddit yet? (he won't).

Yes there is.

 

[longdogs]

But there is no value whatsoever on the parking space. Geddit yet? (he won't).

Yes there is.

Oh no there isn't.

 

[tony1851]

There most certainly is value on a retail centre parking lot.

Otherwise, how would the shops attract customers? Many of the retail parks sell items which, while not necessarily big-ticket items, would neverthless be impossible to cart home on a bus.

If the car park didn't exist, there would be no shoppers, and hence no shops.

Think about it: why are retail parks usually out-of-town? It's because they cater for the car-owning public, and so need a lot of cheaper land away from town centres, so as to lay out the car park.

 

[joe-90]

But the parking contract is with enforcement company - not the retailer. The parking space is free. Totally and completely. Whether it is car A or car B parked, regardless of the time it is there it is free. The enforcement company loses nothing. Therefore, it is not a valid contract.

 

[noseall]

The enforcement company loses nothing. Therefore, it is not a valid contract.

The parking company buys into the agreement a bit like a loan company and takes on the liability.

The contract is valid Joey and has been tried by real lawyers in court and not some clueless keyboard Googler.

 

[noseall]

One thing that's been missed by everyone is that whilst the driver was receiving a fine for £85 for parking in the space for too long, it's possible he was spending £200 in one of the shops.

...or could have been shoplfifting.
What's your point?