You stupid, stupid, trivial, childish little ****.
Is that official/authoritative guidance on which the OP can rely to guarantee that his building would be constructed substantially of non-combustible materials in the context of Schedule 2?
I'm not - my question was a perfectly reasonable response to your assertion that the OP could build it from timber frame, and clad it in fire resisting materials to meet regs.I am not sure if you are being deliberately obtuse.
If they do, and don't include any disclaimers denying the accuracy or validity of their advice then fine.NHBC technical guidance, approved documents, various RIBA publications and technical booklets from a few other organisations will show you details of this situation of timber frame clad both sides with fire resisting materials, 100% of the surface area is then non combustible, you achieve 1/2 hour or whatever is required fire resistance, the timber is only 15% of the internal "surface" area.
I have no knowledge of the requirements, or how to meet them, or where to find guidance which can be relied upon, which is why I am "ignoring" it. Would you rather I gave advice which I had more or less just dreamed up myself? I have, more than once, suggested or referred to the possibility of looking for official or authoritative guidance.You seem to be arguing about a specific way a clause in the standard is written, without being able (understandably) to define it, or offer any reason why timber frame does not meet it, and seem to be ignoring the fact that people build with timber frame in this situation all the time, and many technical guidance documents support it.
They are only going to confuse people who think that "49.8% of new cars sold in 2013 run on diesel" and "the new cars sold in 2013 run on 49.8% diesel" say the same thing.All the OP wants to know is can he build it from timber frame if he clads it, the answer is yes, your posts do nothing but confuse the issue.
IMO it's also for the site to not allow.That others advise to ignore building regs altogether is for the OP to decide to ignore or not.
The argument is with people who think that the regulations require the use of materials which are substantially non-combustible, not that they require the substantial use of materials which are just plain non-combustible, and it's a vital distinction, which it is essential for people to understand.You are trying to win the wrong argument
But I'm still worried about you saying it's OK when your knowledge of the requirements is at the "1/2 hour or whatever is required fire resistance" level.
I have no knowledge of the requirements, or how to meet them, or where to find guidance which can be relied upon
The argument is with people who think that the regulations require the use of materials which are substantially non-combustible, not that they require the substantial use of materials which are just plain non-combustible, and it's a vital distinction, which it is essential for people to understand.
Zero.What help are you being exactly?
Are you an expert in law Bas?I refuse because I can't do that. .The laughable part of Pastor Bas's preachings is he keeps on quoting the phrase "should be constructed out of susbstantially non-combustible...blah...blah...blah...", but refuses to give his take on it and what constitutes "substantially", in any practical sense.
With approval.There is nothing difficult about this situation, timber frame clad with fire resisting materials will satisfy the building regs peeps and it is constructed this way (with approval) very regularly.
For his own amusement, or to form part of a Building Regulations approval application?He may need to bash out some particular construction details
His question recognised the fact that as the building was too close to the boundary it would need permission unless it were constructed substantially of non-combustible material, and what could he do to ensure that it was constructed substantially of non-combustible material. The Building Regulations do not say that you cannot put a building on the boundary which is not constructed substantially of non-combustible material, only that you cannot do so without prior approval.but the shorthand answer to his question is "yes".
Why are so many people here either incapable of reading and understanding straightforward English, or of a mindset to deliberately pretend that they cannot read or understand it?You are disagreeing with advice when you admit you have no knowledge of the requirements, how to meet them, and refuse to define what constitutes a substantial use of non-combustible material whilst arguing with anyone else's take on it, and can't say anything more than "speak to an expert".
The help which people here seem to need with regard to comprehending the written language. Except you all are either too thick or too willfully opposed to the idea of actually reading what I write for it to be doing much good.What help are you being exactly?
The Building Act 1984.Bas is an expert at getting all hot around the collar and telling people they must not break the law, even if he has no clue what laws are being broken.
WTF?a coward.
My opinion is of no relevance, as I have at no point attempted to define, or argue with anybody who has attempted to define, what "constructed substantially of non-combustible material" means.Surely Bas, you of all people are not bereft of an opinion?
Is that?My opinion is of no relevance
COWARDMy opinion is of no relevance, as I have at no point attempted to define, or argue with anybody who has attempted to define, what "constructed substantially of non-combustible material" means.Surely Bas, you of all people are not bereft of an opinion?
Except you all are either too thick or too willfully opposed to the idea of actually reading what I write for it to be doing much good.
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