Vive La France!

[denso13]

Do you have one?

Irrelevant whataboutery, although I gave you an example anyway.

If there is no possibility of it happening it wouldn't be a requirement of the law in the first place.

 

[Odds]

I think I would like a woman to have the option to say that she wants to have an abortion and not have to give a reason if she doesn't want to. To not have to say she is worried about money or that having the baby will cause her mental distress. I think that's what I think anyway! Until this thread it has been a while since I've thought about it seriously.

If a woman wanted an abortion i'd like to think she'd talk it through with her man before anyone else, including doctor, doctor.

 

[motorbiking]

This data is a bit old but given there are 1/4 of a million legal terminations. each year and just 46 problems.

The abortion care charity was unable to find suitable NHS appointments for women with complex health problems before the legal time limit on 46 occasions in 2016 and 2017. 46 out of 200k+ and the failure to find a service had nothing to do with the basis of the request but due to complex health issues - such as cancer, epilepsy, blood clotting etc.

There really isn't any evidence that

And if they think, in their opinion, the criteria are not met

is happening at all.

Which is probably why you can't come up with an example.

 

[denso13]

Which is probably why you can't come up with an example.

You keep going on about about what the law actually says. It doesn't give an actual example. Shall we just ignore it?

 

[denso13]

Which is probably why you can't come up with an example.

I already gave you one.

 

[motorbiking]

Did you disclose their reason for requesting a termination, the absence of any underlying health issues and compliance with the 24 week limit.

No you didn't. you gave them names and ages. How silly.

 

[denso13]

Did you disclose their reason for requesting a termination, the absence of any underlying health issues and compliance with the 24 week limit.

Whataboutery.

Those signing the HSA1 have to agree that at least one of the criteria (the same one) is met. If, in their opinion, none are met, then they can't sign it off. That is just a fact.

 

[motorbiking]

No argument there.. But the reality is you don't seem to understand the meaning of 1.1a in the abortion act.

Here are examples that would meet the criteria..

Jane 24, is 9 weeks pregnant and does not want to become a mum.
Emma 19 finds out she is 12 weeks pregnant and does not want to become a mum.
Claire 34 is 17 week pregnant and does not want to become a mum.
Rebecca is. 27, 28 weeks pregnant and her foetus has a cleft palette

none of them have any medical condition that would make the abortion more risky than giving birth. see how easy it is.. I even gave them names.

 

[denso13]

Here is an example that would meet the criteria..

Probably, just like the overwhelming majority.

 

[motorbiking]

So can you think of any that wouldn't meet the criteria?

 

[noseall]

So can you think of any that wouldn't meet the criteria?

"....hello doctor, my partner here wants me to have an abortion...."

 

[denso13]

So can you think of any that wouldn't meet the criteria?

Yes. I gave you an example.

I even gave them names.

I didn't know you could become a supposed lawyer at 12 years old.

 

[denso13]

So can you think of any that wouldn't meet the criteria?

25 weeks gone?

 

[noseall]

I didn't know you could become a supposed lawyer at 12 years olold.

He ain't no lawyer, he's clueless.

 

[denso13]

So can you think of any that wouldn't meet the criteria?

Continuing the pregnancy would involve less risk than an abortion?