medical emergency takes precedence -Ive already stated that
You keep avoiding answering what happens if form HSA1 is not signed.
We all know the answer: no sign no approval, no abortion
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You keep avoiding answering what happens if form HSA1 is not signed.
We all know the answer: no sign no approval, no abortion
WRONG
if the form HSA1 is not signed, then an abortion does not happen...the reason is because there has been no approval
medical emergencies are a separate argument and only apply where medical takes precedence over legal
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but you provide no legal reference to backup your argument that the abortion is unlawful, if two doctors formed the opinion that the criteria was met, but decided not to fill the paperwork, either deliberately or accidentally.
Saying WRONG means nothing. Show the law you are relying on.
What if someone thought they signed it but singed the wrong one or the form was lost?
Saying WRONG means nothing. Show the law you are relying on.
What if someone thought they signed it but singed the wrong one or the form was lost?
If doctors didnt fill in the paperwork then the administrative process of organising and booking an abortion wouldnt happen
its not hard:
A) 2 doctors sign form HSA1, the administration team then put it in the system and an abortion gets organised
B) 2 doctors dont fill or sign form HSA1, the administration team then dont put it in the system, no abortion gets organised
the 2 differences in these scenarios is that A) that abortion is approved and in B) ther abortion is not approved
Are you sure? I'm not going to go back through 60 pages, but I am certain that there have been several times when other posters have claimed that without an HSA1 an abortion was illegal. I'm sure there were several mentions of 14 years in jail. In any event, at least now I have helped clarify what the offences are and in which situations they apply. That can only be helpful in terms of your wider debate.
not relevant
because without form HSA1 being filled in and signed, an abortion wont happen
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what if it did?
Lawful / Unlawful
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Lawful / Unlawful
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If no two doctors are of the opinion that the grounds are met, and an abortion goes ahead, that would be an illegal abortion under the OAPA. That is very clear.
in which case abortion wouldve taken place without approval
doesnt matter whether its deemed lawful or not
no approval was given
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Assume for the point of arguing that the scenario did happen. Nobody can find the paperwork and nobody can remember completing it, but the two doctors definitely discussed it and agreed that the abortion met the criteria.
It later transpires they were called away to an emergency and forgot to sign the certificate of opinion.
was the abortion legal or illegal?
It later transpires they were called away to an emergency and forgot to sign the certificate of opinion.
was the abortion legal or illegal?
Regardless
An abortion in the UK requires the approval if two doctors (sign off via a HSA form) to proceed.
As I have been saying since page 30.
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But you are wrong.
HSA 1 is not an approval document it is a certificate of opinion. Does this person's circumstances meet the criteria. Simple
HSA 1 is not an approval document it is a certificate of opinion. Does this person's circumstances meet the criteria. Simple
Regardless
An abortion in the UK requires the approval of two doctors (sign off via a HSA form) to proceed.
As I have been saying since page 30.
More irrelevant waffle
