What Britain earns.

[joe-90]

Did anybody watch it? There was a young plumber in Pimlico (employed) earning £100K per annum. No wonder the whole world wants to work in London.

Only 10% of the population earn over £46K.

The guy from Money Supermarket earned £103 million last year.

Nurses and Paramedics earn about £25K for working all hours - but GPs earn £120K for doing precious little - and the government wonders why other health workers want the same deal.

It seemed to me that those at the top earn too much - and those at the bottom too little.

Peter Snow earned £100K and Dan Snow earned £75K.

Did anyone see it?

 

[Bahco]

I wanted to watch that.

Have to wait for the repeat.

 

[Barsteward]

Yep

 

[joe-90]

I wanted to watch that.

Have to wait for the repeat.

Wouldn't your missus let you?

 

[megawatt]

But GPs earn £120K for doing precious little

This is a typical Joe-90 statement which relects his personal dislike of GP's most of whom are extremely well trained, skilled and dedicated individuals who don't actually earn those salaries ... Such generalisations aren't really sensible, there are good and bad in all professions.

Even if they did all earn such salaries I wouldn't have a problem with it if they were a good GP ... Good GP's save lives day in day out.

If you want to take issue with huge salaries for doing f*** all look at sportsmen and women and people in the arts ... Outrageously overpaid and underworked.

MW

 

[Bahco]

I wanted to watch that.

Have to wait for the repeat.

Wouldn't your missus let you?

I was watching Hugh and his chicken campaign.

 

[joe-90]

But GPs earn £120K for doing precious little

This is a typical Joe-90 statement which relects his personal dislike of GP's most of whom are extremely well trained, skilled and dedicated individuals who don't actually earn those salaries ... Such generalisations aren't really sensible, there are good and bad in all professions.

Even if they did all earn such salaries I wouldn't have a problem with it if they were a good GP ... Good GP's save lives day in day out.

If you want to take issue with huge salaries for doing f*** all look at sportsmen and women and people in the arts ... Outrageously overpaid and underworked.

MW

Sorry mate, but GP's arent worth 5 nurses or 5 paramedics.

You told us last year that your partner was a GP so I guess you are a bit biased eh?

Sport and entertainment celbs are overpaid, but they don't form a platform in the NHS as GPs do. If you are sick the GP sends you to hospital and if you are not they send you home. Complete doddle of a job. You can get the same info for free at a pharmacy.

 

[Barsteward]

Sorry mate, but GP's arent worth 5 nurses or 5 paramedics.

You told us last year that your partner was a GP so I guess you are a bit biased eh?

Sport and entertainment celbs are overpaid, but they don't form a platform in the NHS as GPs do. If you are sick the GP sends you to hospital and if you are not they send you home. Complete doddle of a job. You can get the same info for free at a pharmacy.

Ah, so it's Dr Joe now is it?
Expert in dogma

 

[megawatt]

You told us last year that your partner was a GP so I guess you are a bit biased eh?

No, actually, I didn't and, for the VERY last time Joe, my wife is not now nor has she ever been a GP ... I'd be interested in seeing this so-called post of mine to which you keep referring because, if you can find one, it certainly wasn't posted by me and I'll ask Admin to investigate.

Sorry mate, but GP's arent worth 5 nurses or 5 paramedics.

Nor have I said that they are. The issue, though, isn't the salary of GP's but the ridiculously low salaries of nurses and paramedics.

If you are sick the GP sends you to hospital and if you are not they send you home.

Clever bit comes from the training, skills and experience to spot that you are sick and require hospitalisation or that you can safely go back home to bed and not subsequently die in your sleep.

Complete doddle of a job. You can get the same info for free at a pharmacy.

In your (very uninformed) opinion. But, at the end of the day, nobody is asking you to visit your GP and, if you think the local pharmacist knows better, leave the appointment book free for those of us who respect our GP's advice.

Or, you could simply save everyone's time and go straight to A&E when you have a sore throat, temperature and an odd looking rash on your scrotum

One day, however, you mayhave something out of the ordinary where a good GP could save your life ... Yours to throw away though.

MW

 

[big-all]

excert

"GPs are back in the news as their average pay has reportedly climbed towards £100,000. Their last officially recorded mean average of nearly £70,000 was nearly two and a half times the average salary. Forty years ago, however, they were earning three and a half times the average. The latest rises in their pay have been part of a deliberate policy by the government to address a shortage of doctors."



http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2006/apr/22/business.politics

I wanted to watch that.

Have to wait for the repeat.

watch the program on line
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/page/item/b008m4c8.shtml

 

[megawatt]

What the press never tell you (because it doesn't make good press) is that the GP's who are capable of earning well above the average are those who provide community services in the practice ... Minor surgery clinics, vaccinations, homeopathy, acupuncture, well women clinics etc etc etc.

Contrary to Joe's bias, they don't actually get the extra payments for doing nothing

 

[joe-90]

No mega. They earn up to £250K. They also often own the parmacy on site too.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2005/may/11/primarycare.nhsstaff

And to cap it off, even though they only work for one employer (NHS) they are classed as self employed and can ship their earning offshore and pay little tax.

 

[noseall]

i too saw the program.

i was not at all surprised by any of the salaries that folks were earning. if they earned more than me, for allegedly doing less, so be it.
i made my choice.
if i were a g.p. earning 70k/pa, for a 12 hr day, i wouldn't be bragging about it.
i agree, some salaries are grossly disproportionate. but hey, it's a free country, i guess i'd better start training to be a stocks & shares trader or a private equity specialist.

 

[joe-90]

i too saw the program.


if i were a g.p. earning 70k/pa, for a 12 hr day, i wouldn't be bragging about it.

They earn an average of £120K and work less hours than you do. No Saturdays, no call-outs. Cozy little office (usually) half asleep and talking gibberish.

 

[megawatt]

Most GP practices (at the present time) are private legal partnerships and not a core salaried component of the NHS. they are, therefore, just like you and I, entitled to bid for lucrative services where there is a public interest for them to do so.

You quoted the Times article Joe, which I'm familiar with as it's one of the most accurate and balanced reports I've read.

Why don't you actually try reading it and then post back a fair and objective summary of it rather than simply picking the odd sentence out for sensationalism ... Have you ever considered a career in journalism?

You do have a flair for posting things well out of its original context.

The summary is ...

The indications are that general practice in the UK has achieved very high quality standards which justify higher earnings. However, we have to be cautious about the precise amount because this is just a snapshot of 11.2% of practices and seems to include non-NHS income as well as NHS earnings