Why aren't we building more prisons?

[diy_fun_uk]

This was mentioned on the telly box the other day i.e. the plan for further early prisoner releases.

Thousands of killers and sex offenders to be released early - as Justice Minister insists 'robust' community packages in place | LBC

The move, aimed at easing prison overcrowding, could come into force from September.

www.lbc.co.uk

Example:

The changes to the early-release scheme will see prisoners jailed for a total of 15 years for manslaughter released after 7.5 years rather than 10, under current protocols.

What a complete and utter joke. They keep on talking about overcrowding, lack of prison places etc.

Why not build more prisons then? We spaff enough £££ on other stuff, why not throw some of it in the direction of building prisons?

 

[ellal]

What a complete and utter joke. They keep on talking about overcrowding, lack of prison places etc.

Why not build more prisons then? We spaff enough £££ on other stuff, why not throw some of it in the direction of building prisons?

So since there is no money to spend, taxes would have to go up...

If not, what do you cut?

Benefits, welfare and social spending seems to be the favourite target of the RW...

Which strangely enough tends to lead to more crime

 

[Mottie]

Benefits, welfare and social spending seems to be the favourite target of the RW...

Which strangely enough tends to lead to more crime

So your answer is to just keep chucking money at them to keep crime down? Doesn’t that mean that the (would be) criminals have won?

You may as well say lower the tax rates to stop people evading taxes.

Cut the price of gas to stop people fiddling the meter and blowing houses up.

Raise the speed limits on all roads to 100mph to eliminate speeding offenders.

 

[blup]

The problems run much deeper because you need to staff these prisons. In a re form world we’d treat prisons like the US as a business opportunity to be exploited, rather like the Chineese execute someone when a party member needs a new kidney.

 

[Tigercubrider]

We are already one of the highest prison populations in Europe,
We also have one of the oldest prison estates in Europe, with many failing to meet habitation standards.
The UK has a high recidivist number - basically we have been doing it wrong.

Prison in the UK is meant to rehabilitate, not punish. The punishment is loss of liberty.
Surely the cheapest solution is to have more open prisons, but with the penalty of harsher conditions should the prisoner fail to show respect to the system, you catch more flies with honey….

Banging up loads of people doesn’t work.

 

[King Billy]

So your answer is to just keep chucking money at them to keep crime down? Doesn’t that mean that the (would be) criminals have won?

You may as well say lower the tax rates to stop people evading taxes.

Cut the price of gas to stop people fiddling the meter and blowing houses up.

Raise the speed limits on all roads to 100mph to eliminate speeding offenders.

It's two different sources of funding. Prisons are built with borrowed money.
Benefits are paid for from taxes, etc.

 

[jj4091]

The problems run much deeper because you need to staff these prisons. In a re form world we’d treat prisons like the US as a business opportunity to be exploited, rather like the Chineese execute someone when a party member needs a new kidney.

I can agree with exicuteing a good few of them to get numbers down. Not releasing them early

 

[IT Minion]

This was mentioned on the telly box the other day i.e. the plan for further early prisoner releases.

Thousands of killers and sex offenders to be released early - as Justice Minister insists 'robust' community packages in place | LBC

The move, aimed at easing prison overcrowding, could come into force from September.

www.lbc.co.uk

Example:

The changes to the early-release scheme will see prisoners jailed for a total of 15 years for manslaughter released after 7.5 years rather than 10, under current protocols.

What a complete and utter joke. They keep on talking about overcrowding, lack of prison places etc.

Why not build more prisons then? We spaff enough £££ on other stuff, why not throw some of it in the direction of building prisons?

We are though.

 

[blup]

I can agree with exicuteing a good few of them to get numbers down. Not releasing them early

You do realise that a momentary loss of concentration and going over the speed limit could land you in prison for years

 

[transam]

One could save a few squid and reduce the prison population by bumping off a good few of the very worst offenders

I could put a quick list together for Andy if he is interested ??

 

[IT Minion]

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[diy_fun_uk]

Prison in the UK is meant to rehabilitate, not punish. The punishment is loss of liberty.

Eh? What?!?

It should be both. And for many crimes, the sentence should be the sentence.

 

[Highway Man]

People in prison have too soft a ride and has become a career choice for some, commit a crime, do some time then out and the circle goes on.