Wiring modular switche

[milbo1990]

I've checked the wiki and there's nothing in there for wiring up modular sockets and switches.

I want to replace some ugly 2g FCUs with modular units housing a 13a outlet and a switch for the sockets supplying my integrated appliances.

The existing FCUs are in-circuit with a spur off to an unswitched socket for the appliance. Where I'm getting confused is that I want to put an outlet in the new module - that's simple; just terminate the 'in' and 'out' into the 13a outlet as you normally would, but how do I then get a live feed to my switch for the spur and what do I then do with the neutral which feeds my appliance outlet?

Thanks in advance!

 

[EFLImpudence]

I want to replace some ugly 2g FCUs with modular units housing a 13a outlet and a switch for the sockets supplying my integrated appliances.

Never seen a two-gang FCU.

The existing FCUs are in-circuit with a spur off to an unswitched socket for the appliance. Where I'm getting confused is that I want to put an outlet in the new module - that's simple;

Is it?

just terminate the 'in' and 'out' into the 13a outlet as you normally would,

Are you getting confused with connecting to the ring and supplying the appliance.

but how do I then get a live feed to my switch for the spur and what do I then do with the neutral which feeds my appliance outlet?

There are connections for each on an FCU.

However, you do not need an FCU. There will be a fuse in the plug.
Just use a 20A double pole switch although neither is necessary unless you want to do it.

 

[riveralt]

I want to replace some ugly 2g FCUs with modular units housing a 13a outlet and a switch for the sockets supplying my integrated appliances.

Do they make two gang FCU's?
Show us some photographs of what you have.

 

[riveralt]

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too slow

 

[riveralt]

The system has gone mad on me....

 

[milbo1990]

I want to replace some ugly 2g FCUs with modular units housing a 13a outlet and a switch for the sockets supplying my integrated appliances.

Never seen a two-gang FCU.

The existing FCUs are in-circuit with a spur off to an unswitched socket for the appliance. Where I'm getting confused is that I want to put an outlet in the new module - that's simple;

Is it?

just terminate the 'in' and 'out' into the 13a outlet as you normally would,

Are you getting confused with connecting to the ring and supplying the appliance.

but how do I then get a live feed to my switch for the spur and what do I then do with the neutral which feeds my appliance outlet?

There are connections for each on an FCU.

However, you do not need an FCU. There will be a switch in the plug.
Just use a 20A double pole switch although neither is necessary unless you want to do it.

Sorry - looks like I worded that badly. The existing FCUs are 1G, I'm replacing with 2G modules so that I can have an extra outlet above worktop.

If I was only replacing the FCU with an outlet module, there wouldn't be any confusion because it's no different to wiring up a normal outlet. Doing this will put the outlet in the ring circuit in place of the FCU. However, I need to also fit a 16a switch module to switch my integrated appliance. Once I've wired up the new outlet for the module, I'm only left with my twin&earth which feeds my appliance socket. The new switch module only has 2 terminals (one way switch) live1 and com. I would normally terminate the live for the appliance socket into the com terminal. This leaves me requiring a live feed for the switch (do I just run a single live between the other outlet module and the switch) and also leaves me with a neutral going to the appliance socket and nowhere to terminate it.

 

[EFLImpudence]

Then you are using the wrong switch.

Get a 20A double pole switch.

 

[milbo1990]

Then you are using the wrong switch.

Get a 20A double pole switch.

Thanks - bad advice from the guys at the merchants!

 

[ban-all-sheds]

modular units housing a 13a outlet and a switch

What's the difference between one of those

and one of these:

 

[milbo1990]

modular units housing a 13a outlet and a switch

What's the difference between one of those

and one of these:

That's simply a 2G switched socket. What I'm doing is a 2G modular frame with a single unswitched 13a outlet and a switch which switches an outlet in another location as required for all integrated appliances.

 

[EFLImpudence]

as required for all integrated appliances.

It's not 'required' (by any regulation); it is fashion and up to you if you want one.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

Not only is it not required, IMO an accessory with a switch and a socket outlet which is not controlled by the switch would be unnecessarily confusing for people.

 

[milbo1990]

Not only is it not required, IMO an accessory with a switch and a socket outlet which is not controlled by the switch would be unnecessarily confusing for people.

Interesting! Kitchen fitter I know said it was a requirement now! Might reconsider in that case...

 

[riveralt]

as required for all integrated appliances.

It's not 'required' (by any regulation); it is fashion and up to you if you want one.

While I agree it is not a regulation, I'm not sure it is just fashion either - after all it still appears as Guidance in both the Yellow On-Site-Guide and the Electricians Guide to the Building Regulations.
Although a cluster of 20A DP Grid switches (with name plates) do look better.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

I've not got the yellow OSG - what does it say?