Servicing a boiler, How Long?

[charliechaplinspants]

How long do you think this should take? and if it`s burning correctly & analyser readings are within parameters should you start stripping at all?
I believe BG don`t if C0/C02 ratio is around . 004? You`d be there all day if you followed MIs How many people actually service to the book or is it o.k to follow BG`s way? ( if this is actually true, as told to me by a Baxi instructor), and if you just pop in bang on your gas analyser and say `that`s fine` it`s gonna look a bit dubious to customer is it not?

Anyone any thoughts?

 

[kirkgas]

again this another post centering around BG, if you work for BG then you do it BG way, as that is your employers policy, if you work for someone else you must use their policy, failing to have a policy strickter than MI and gas regs means reverting back to MI for specific appliance, which quite often says check x, if result is between y-z then no further checks are required, i beleive BG do safety checks not service, so first thing to know is what are you doing for customer, a service, a safety check, a Landlords Safety check, a Landlords combined safety check & service,

 

[Diyisfun]

If I have someone in to service my boiler, I would expect them to clean it, then do the safety checks.
Or maybe check first to ensure it is safe then clean it & recheck.

 

[Agile]

Again this is a posting which should have been made in the Combustion Chamber section of this site.

 

[D_Hailsham]

Again this is a posting which should have been made in the Combustion Chamber section of this site.

Why? The customer has every right to know what to expect. If I pay for a "service", I expect the engineer to follow the manufacturer's servicing instructions to the letter. But if I pay for a "safety check", I have no idea what I will get.

 

[clf-gas]

Sorry Tony, but I must concur with Mr Hailsham.

I pesonally dont agree with just a CPA reading and basic electrical checks as a "safety check", (but thats my personal oppinion).

I, on a service, perform analyser reading first. Then follow my own service criteria, reassemble and perform second reading along with gas rating. This can take me upwards of an hour on some boilers and alot less on others.

Value for money?, I think so.

 

[Diyisfun]

So is a service a clean?

I was under the impression that the boiler was cleaned to keep the efficency up to spec.

 

[clf-gas]

So is a service a clean?

Well erm sort of. We perform other checks as well as just cleaning things.

We look for potential faults.

 

[heytesto]

Purchasing a flue gas analyser has had very little effect on the way I service a boiler. I still clean the combustion chamber, hex, burner, fan, venturi, etc. Check high and low burner pressures and safety devices, electrodes etc.
Then I apply the FGA and print off the result.

Remember, the co/co2 ratio is mainly an indication of combustion performance rather than safety.

 

[bengasman]

If I have someone in to service my boiler, I would expect them to clean it....

Clean what exactly?

 

[D_Hailsham]

Clean what exactly?

Whatever the MI's say should be cleaned. And if the engineer gives the case a polish as well - that's an added bonus

 

[clf-gas]

Clean what exactly?

His laptop, he clearly stated "I would expect them to clean IT....

 

[CMairiD]

From the social sector, we expect a service and relevant safety checks. That means a strip down service, unless MI recommend something different.

To me a service is more than just cleaning, we are expecting engineers to look for things like leaks on the HEX, something that a FGA isn't going to pick up. We also ask them to look at all controls, rads, and to top-up inhibitor as required.

I agree: this doesn't belong in the Combustion Chamber.

 

[bengasman]

From the social sector, we expect a service and relevant safety checks. That means a strip down service, unless MI recommend something different.

To me a service is more than just cleaning, we are expecting engineers to look for things like leaks on the HEX, something that a FGA isn't going to pick up. We also ask them to look at all controls, rads, and to top-up inhibitor as required.

Your budget for servicing must be significantly higher than average in social housing, or alternatively your expectations will not be met.

 

[charliechaplinspants]

Surely every question posed relating to gas hasn`t got to be posted/answered in the combustion chamber So one would expect a strip down of the appliance, burner out etc, also gas analyser test, gas rating, working/burner pressures and general inspection of condensate traps and other inner workings, then? At least an hour? are we all agreeing a service on a boiler should take that long at least?

Have to agree with Bengasman regarding social housing sector/budgets, no way do service engineers ( i know quite a few) do full strip downs etc, because a lot of them do 12-14 in a day and finish by 4.0`clock! The company policy may state on paper that they expect all that CmairiD states regarding servicing but I think all those working or who have worked in the social housing sector know that money/time is God and they generally turn a blind eye to service guys turning in these unlikely performances, they do so because it swells the coffers and it`s the engineers name on the CP12! any irregularities? we sacked him for not following company policy.