Lawrence: How much more money?

[libby lou lou]

So it's about bent coppers, yes seen em all my life, you don't think an extra 20 million pounds will get rid of them do you???.

 

[alumni]

So it's about bent coppers, yes seen em all my life, you don't think an extra 20 million pounds will get rid of them do you???.

No, not at all. That doesn't mean the problem should just be ignored though does it?

 

[libby lou lou]

No, your are right, it should not be ignored, but spend what ever figure you like, you, me and the rest will never ever get the truth with the bent, and they are bent coppers.

Let sleeping dogs lie.

 

[alumni]

And what about the legal vultures creaming off the money at the Leveson enquiry?
Now that is wrong.

 

[libby lou lou]

What about the vultures that caused this enquiry?????

 

[alumni]

What about the vultures that caused this enquiry?????

Therein lies the problem. Where do you draw the line.

 

[LastMagicBean]

Why not mention the two blacks who dragged a man from a pub in north London and cut his throat, and attacked his father who tried to defend him?
No big "Stephen Lawrence " deal there was there. This was last week, anyone see it in the news? All over the papers? Groups set up?

Have to agree.

(Although it was a gang of 'em, and the Father was fighting for his life in hospital,( from stab wounds), for laying on his sons bleeding body preventing him from being stabbed further.)

Not much mentioned about THAT.

 

[joinerjohn]

Have to agree.

(Although it was a gang of 'em, and the Father was fighting for his life in hospital,( from stab wounds), for laying on his sons bleeding body preventing him from being stabbed further.)

Not much mentioned about THAT.

And you can bet that this will be forgotten about within a few years (at least by the press)
It certainly won't be talked about on internet forums in 20 yrs time.

 

[LastMagicBean]

Have to agree.

(Although it was a gang of 'em, and the Father was fighting for his life in hospital,( from stab wounds), for laying on his sons bleeding body preventing him from being stabbed further.)

Not much mentioned about THAT.

And you can bet that this will be forgotten about within a few years (at least by the press)
It certainly won't be talked about on internet forums in 20 yrs time.

Yep. It's a bloody disgrace John. Begs another question ...... If you asked joe public, would they know the case we are on about? NO.
But mention lawrence and everyone knows twenty years later.
How does that work ?

 

[JohnD]

Why not mention the two blacks who dragged a man from a pub in north London and cut his throat, and attacked his father who tried to defend him?

That's terrible.

Just to check, did the police then detain his father as a suspect, fail to follow up the actual criminals, warn the dad of one of them, and let them get away with it for fifteen years?

Or is it not quite a parallel to the Lawrence case?

 

[Deleted member 63160]

Why not mention the two blacks who dragged a man from a pub in north London and cut his throat, and attacked his father who tried to defend him?

That's terrible.

Just to check, did the police then detain his father as a suspect?

No, he was in hospital recovering from stab wounds sustained whilst laying over his dying son trying to save him from a gang of blacks.

 

[JohnD]

not really the same, then

you'll be telling next that the police didn't fail to follow up the actual criminals, warn the dad of one of them, and let them get away with it for fifteen years.

 

[Workers]

If you recall the "Lawrence" case WAS all over the papers from day one. This instance was not, it hardly got a mention.

 

[AronSearle]

So it's about bent coppers, yes seen em all my life, you don't think an extra 20 million pounds will get rid of them do you???.

No, not at all. That doesn't mean the problem should just be ignored though does it?

But it's a 20 year old case.

What is the cost vs benefit?

workplace rules and regulations have changed a fair bit since then, so what use will the results of a 20 year old case be to modern day policing?

A whole raft of anti racism measures have been introduced into the force, so what do we expect this case to achieve?

Remember that today only 30% of violent offences lead to a conviction, and burglaries is somewhere around 10% (These figures are off the top of my head and for bucks, so may vary).

Justice no matter the cost, or should a more "practical" stance be taken?

 

[alumni]

So it's about bent coppers, yes seen em all my life, you don't think an extra 20 million pounds will get rid of them do you???.

No, not at all. That doesn't mean the problem should just be ignored though does it?

But it's a 20 year old case.

What is the cost vs benefit?

workplace rules and regulations have changed a fair bit since then, so what use will the results of a 20 year old case be to modern day policing?

A whole raft of anti racism measures have been introduced into the force, so what do we expect this case to achieve?

Remember that today only 30% of violent offences lead to a conviction, and burglaries is somewhere around 10% (These figures are off the top of my head and for bucks, so may vary).

Justice no matter the cost, or should a more "practical" stance be taken?

So you support bent coppers?