Has this employee considered how the pigs themselves would have felt if they knew that she was to deny them access to the route (ie checkout) to fulfil their final purpose? Lack of empathy! Typical 
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Saw on a TV a program showing how even Arab countries such as Dubai, they have supermarkets selling pork products, and a clear sign that says PORK FOR EUROPEAN CUSTOMERS, so even in such strict Islamic countries, Muslims accept that Europeans or non-Muslims consume Pork.
In 1968, there was a 10,000mile London to Sydney Marathon, in which a Hillman Hunter (Rootes manufactured car - a true British company) which had won the hearts and minds of Iranian people, so much so that nearly all cars in Iran were Hillman Hunters, with a name changed to local preference and they started calling them Pycan, which roughly means a Hunter!
So, when they heard a Hillman Hunter was taking part in this marathon, they made special facilities for the crew of this and any other Hillman Hunters taking part and when they drove through Iran, and at a overnight rest, their crews were treated to a very nice hospitality, a nice comfy bed, and in the morning they provided the crew with a proper British breakfast made of Pork susages and beacon, which they had to specially flown into Iran from Britain.
oh needless to say guess which car won that marathon, indeed a Hillman Hunter crewed by Andrew Cowan and Brian Coyle and Colin Malkin!
In 1968, there was a 10,000mile London to Sydney Marathon, in which a Hillman Hunter (Rootes manufactured car - a true British company) which had won the hearts and minds of Iranian people, so much so that nearly all cars in Iran were Hillman Hunters, with a name changed to local preference and they started calling them Pycan, which roughly means a Hunter!
So, when they heard a Hillman Hunter was taking part in this marathon, they made special facilities for the crew of this and any other Hillman Hunters taking part and when they drove through Iran, and at a overnight rest, their crews were treated to a very nice hospitality, a nice comfy bed, and in the morning they provided the crew with a proper British breakfast made of Pork susages and beacon, which they had to specially flown into Iran from Britain.
oh needless to say guess which car won that marathon, indeed a Hillman Hunter crewed by Andrew Cowan and Brian Coyle and Colin Malkin!
a Muslim man was left embarrassed and humiliated at his local supermarket when a Christian member of staff refused to serve him halal meat as she did not agree with the brutal practices of slaughter. he says he was asked to wait for a Muslim staff member to process the sale as no one else would touch it. a supermarket spokeswoman said "it is our policy if staff do not agree with halal butchering due to Christian reasons they may ask the customer to queue at another till with a Muslim member of staff serving"
if carslberg made news stories.......
if carslberg made news stories.......
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DiscoDancer
So we should also force certain priests, vicars, etc to carry out weddings, etc that they disagree with?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/rel...d-for-refusing-gay-marriages-in-churches.html
I don't see the hue and cry on these forums about this.
What's the difference?
Oh, I see, gay weddings don't give the same opportunity for some to vent their prejudice against others.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/rel...d-for-refusing-gay-marriages-in-churches.html
I don't see the hue and cry on these forums about this.
What's the difference?
Oh, I see, gay weddings don't give the same opportunity for some to vent their prejudice against others.
well gays are asking to be married under a religion that says gays can't marry. if a priest got a part time job in a registry office as an admin and refused to put through a civil partnership it would be exactly the same.
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DiscoDancer
It is exactly the same if the priest, vicar, whoever refused to perform the service in their church. They are employed by that church!
well when they signed up they read the bit in te bible that says homosexuality is wrong so they would have a case for unfair dismissal if the church supposed to represent suddenly says gay marriages are ok. unlike Muslims who take a job then asked to be excused of bits they don't fancy. that aside, I notice there has been no pressure on Muslims to allow gays to marry in their faith? tolerance only works one way I guess.
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DiscoDancer
First off, how do you know that the M&S person specification did not state that various religions would be catered for, and how do you know that muslims did not discuss their faith at the interview stage? You don't! Neither does anyone else on these forums.
Secondly, If the person specification for priests, etc, stated that the services should represent the views of whichever holy book was in vogue, then howcome the priests etc who do perform such services, that are against that religion, are not disciplined?
Thirdly, no religious sects have been pressured into performing these services. Therefere tolerance all round, I guess!
maybe it said it on the application that staff could pick and choose which boxes they want to scan for customers if it was under a religious banner but then the store would more likely have them in te back room or stacking as swapping staff is a pain and insulting customers hurts profits so more likely to be a retrospective concession after a group of Muslim staff brought it up at a team meeting.
your other two points aren't as lucid, as you know there is no person specification and cv for priests rabbis or imams , these people devote their lives to a god not a church per se and devote their lives to what's written in their holy book. and regards to pressure yes there has been pressure exerted on Christian churches by the gay rights scene but not to my knowledge Islamic ones.
your other two points aren't as lucid, as you know there is no person specification and cv for priests rabbis or imams , these people devote their lives to a god not a church per se and devote their lives to what's written in their holy book. and regards to pressure yes there has been pressure exerted on Christian churches by the gay rights scene but not to my knowledge Islamic ones.
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DiscoDancer
Your assumption.
No I don't know. Do you? So how does the recruitment process work then? Are there not ambitious people in the Ecclesiastical world? How do women, gays, etc break into the career? Do they hide their gender, sexuality, etc, then declare their true selves after ordination, employment, elevation, etc?
In ther case of non-paid, volunteers maybe. But in my experience most are employed by their church. Even volunteers that go against the beliefs/teachings of the religion would be politely asked to participate in sex and travel.
So the gays are to blame.
So the gays are to blame.
I'd suggest that Stonehouse (or whatever they're called) feel they have met their match with the muslims.
No, they've gone for the easy option: the Christian church.
Your assumption.
No I don't know. Do you?
In ther case of non-paid, volunteers maybe. But in my experience most are employed by their church..."
So the gays are to blame.
Well we have to make some assumptions and unless we find evidence otherwise it's reasonable to assume the not handling pork thing came after they were employed, as it's unlikely a supermarket would instigate this sort of thing of it's own accord. Agree?
Regards clergy, yes they will be employed by the church but it's not seen as just a paycheck like the checkout girl in m&s, it's a lifetime vocation that's only possible if you believe the holy book 100%. Imagine the life of a catholic priest - celebacy... no kids, no wife, no partner when you get old, doing masses and funerals etc for the rest of your life.... it's a big step to take to be told that the bible you invested your life into is malleable after all. Would shake one's confidence quite a bit I imagine.
As for the gays I'm not sure what point is being made about them now, fact is they have been pressuring christian churches but not muslim ones... lots of points there but the one I'm interested in is that muslims are not even willing to discuss the possiblity, which brings us to the issue of tolerance.
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Good point. Yet another example of how the mussers have there cake and eat it.
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