Hillsborough All Over Again

[JohnD]

once it was aflame top to bottom, it was too late.

 

[JohnD]

It's great to know than transam intends to maintain a dignified silence.

I wonder when he intends to start?

clearly not today.

 

[IWalkLikeHimaMartian]

And were many of these poorer people shoved into flats encased in flammable cladding?

They could have stayed at home.

Get rid of the foreign beggars and slackers for a start.

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We have grubby politicians trying to make political capital out of the disaster with in 24 hours.

What is worse: politicians making political capital, or RWRs making disgusting capital, pursuing their own agenda?

 

[Roger928]

What is worse politicians making political capital, or us LWRs making disgusting capital, pursuing our own agenda?

Definitely the lwr pursuing their own libertarded agenda.

 

[JohnD]

did somebody say "speculation?"

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Possibly lots of this going on as well.

 

[Roger928]

once it was aflame top to bottom, it was too late.

No schitt?

How much time was there between the firefighters first noticing the panels catching fire at the lower floors of the building and then finally when the panels at the top were ablaze?

 

[transam]

clearly not today.

Obviously u are unable to maintain dignity making capital out of a disaster and the deaths of over 70 people & u pontificate about Dignity

dare say we will be getting a quote from yer favourite paper the Daily Wail

Go on line and organise a lynch mob for the councillers of the borough

 

[JohnD]

How much time was there between the firefighters first noticing the panels catching fire at the lower floors of the building and then finally when the panels at the top were ablaze?

So you're trying to blame the firefighters.

 

[Roger928]

So you're trying to blame the firefighters.

Who ever was in charge will have some serious questions to answer.

Why would you tell people to stay indoors when the flames started travelling up the building from the outside?

 

[IWalkLikeHimaMartian]

So you're trying to blame the firefighters.

He has already blamed the EU, Hate has blamed the residents.

 

[JohnD]

So now you're trying to blame the Kensington and Chelsea council.

As well as the firefighters.

 

[Roger928]

It will all come out in the criminal investigation.

 

[JohnD]

We'll have sexist transam in a minute, telling them off for speculating.

 

[Roger928]

Hate has blamed the residents

One resident seen fit to pack his bags whilst the fire was starting in his flat.
Must remember to do that if my home ever catches fire.

 

[IWalkLikeHimaMartian]

It will all come out in the criminal investigation.

I doubt if you/ we will find anything at all about the criminal investigation, unless there is a prosecution and a trial.
If you meant the Inquiry, well yes, it will be a Public Inquiry.
But:

since the appointment of a public inquiry is typically made by government ministers, events that involve allegations of blame on the part of the relevant minister are less likely to be investigated by a public inquiry

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_inquiry

Are public inquiries worth the time, money and resources?
Nicholas Timmins

https://www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/blog/are-public-inquiries-worth-time-money-and-resources

Public inquiries: a waste of time and money or a useful adjunct to the legal process?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...or-a-useful-adjunct-to-the-legal-process.html

Criticism focused in the main on the perceived lack of transparency and independence inherent in procedures under an act that place the power to institute an inquiry into the hands of a minister, whose department may be at the heart of the concerns under investigation. What is more, the minister is given important powers under IA 2005, including to appoint and fire panel members, to frame terms of reference, to restrict disclosure of documentation or public access to an inquiry – and what is published by it – and, ultimately, to terminate the inquiry.

https://www.lawgazette.co.uk/practice-points/public-inquiries-getting-at-the-truth/5049449.article

the question of liability and parallel proceedings Section 2 of the 2005 Act prohibits the chairman making any finding of civil or criminal liability with respect to any witness. However, this is qualified:

https://www.kingsleynapley.co.uk/.../emily-carter-ihl-article-public-inquiries-striking-t