King Leopold II

Oppressed by whom? I agree that there is a big problem with the American police but bad policing is symptom of what is wrong rather than the cause.
In the UK how many people do you know who actively "oppress" black people.
There's a lot less of it in the UK than the US, but that's not to say none or even not enough to worry about.
 
Standards of humanity were very different then. No one has any need to apologise for what everyone's ancestor's did and accepted as the norm.
yes I kind of agree -apologies arent approriate.

however we need to learn from the past and use that to educate for the future.
 
yes I kind of agree -apologies arent approriate.

however we need to learn from the past and use that to educate for the future.

And, imho, you don't do that by ragging down every statue, and displaying it in a museum (where it will be forgotten by all except for the mostly middle classes).
 
GOD bumped off a few people in the Old Testament..Best pull down all the churches and cathedrals.

There was a nutty kiddy-fiddling warlord back in the 7th century who murdered several and inspired many millions more to kill, lets pull down all the mosques now!
 
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And, imho, you don't do that by ragging down every statue, and displaying it in a museum (where it will be forgotten by all except for the mostly middle classes).
these arguments about people getting upset about statues are missing the main point.....

the protests have momentum, it may well go down in history, it might encourage curriculum to be changed to include the origins of slavery.

if the protests were perfectly peaceful and statues were not coming down, nothing whatsoever would change......how does the status quo educate?
 
There was a nutty kiddy-fiddling warlod back in the 7th cent


There was a nutty kiddy-fiddling warlord back in the 7th century who murdered several and inspired many millions more to kill, lets pull down all the mosques now!
more appeal to extremes.

how terribly tedious -zero counter argument, I guess you dont have one.
 
more appeal to extremes.

how terribly tedious -zero counter argument, I guess you dont have one.

Hey Notchy, posted a thread just for you. Just clearing up the record so there's no misunderstanding.
 
more appeal to extremes.

how terribly tedious -zero counter argument, I guess you dont have one.

What argument? You just posted a picture.

However I'll not argue with you about Leopold - I've read the books. Stick to the British Empire; all others are inferior.
 
There was a nutty kiddy-fiddling warlord back in the 7th century who murdered several and inspired many millions more to kill, lets pull down all the mosques now!
not Alfred?

I thought he only burnt cakes
 
Was leopold "racist" per se, or was he just a greedy ******* who plundered what he could?
Im sure the motivation was purely greed.

I guess he killed a lot of black people and plundered their land..which probably means he isnt too popular amongst black people.

It seems education is the long term solution -for both black and white people.
 
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