Vaccine approved

[ellal]

I'm not an anti vaxxer as I have explained before...

I do however wish to find out what exactly is going to be injected into my and my family's bodies, and the possible side effects...

So I'd like to know why those who criticize that approach are happy to believe anything they are told about this 'vaccine'?

 

[Mottie]

Approval for what?

The world's fastest ever 'vaccine' that has had no credible independent tests on possible side effects?

We still don't have a vaccine for 'Honk Kong flu' and that was in 1968!

It has nothing to do with a country. It has everything to do with an individual to think for themselves...

But if you're happy to take part in an experimental drug then good for you. Just check that 'waiver'!

I do hope not having a ‘Covid vaccination' certificate won’t stop you from travelling to your favourite European destination.

 

[Brigadier]

And the psychological benefit of improved awareness helps too.

IMHO, it has the opposite effect.
Social distancing went for a Burton, when face coverings came in.
The one - way arrows went.

IMHO, face coverings were introduced not for health protection, but allow hospitality to reopen.

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[JohnD]

No alternative proposal from @ellal

So his chosen option is to continue to allow the disease to spread through the community.

 

[dontbelieveawordofit]

Approval for what?

The world's fastest ever 'vaccine' that has had no credible independent tests on possible side effects?

We still don't have a vaccine for 'Honk Kong flu' and that was in 1968!

It has nothing to do with a country. It has everything to do with an individual to think for themselves...

But if you're happy to take part in an experimental drug then good for you. Just check that 'waiver'!

they’ll all be pi$$ing and shi€€ing themselves in 20 years , sat in front of the gp with bone or blood cancer diagnoses crying like babies. at least they won’t have got chinese flu in the meantime.

 

[Mottie]

No alternative proposal from @ellal

So his chosen option is to continue to allow the disease to spread through the community.

Yep, ellals motto is "Bitch, snipe and blame, never explain".

 

[dontbelieveawordofit]

No alternative proposal from @ellal

So his chosen option is to continue to allow the disease to spread through the community.

affecting less people than flu. not worth mentioning let alone taking over your life.

 

[dontbelieveawordofit]

I'm not an anti vaxxer as I have explained before...

I do however wish to find out what exactly is going to be injected into my and my family's bodies, and the possible side effects...

So I'd like to know why those who criticize that approach are happy to believe anything they are told about this 'vaccine'?

the reason they’re so eager to get vaccinated with literally anything is the need for a ‘normal’ life has burdened their souls . Huge obscene amounts of debt through materialism means they have to have the freedom to be able to service their obligations. sink or swim for the majority , including the majority on here i suspect. sad isn’t it.

 

[dontbelieveawordofit]

No alternative proposal from @ellal

So his chosen option is to continue to allow the disease to spread through the community.

nonsense. believers. so weak and timid.
lifes bitches. where would the establishment be without you little soldiers.

 

[ajohn]

IMHO, it has the opposite effect.
Social distancing went for a Burton, when face coverings came in.
The one - way arrows went.

IMHO, gave coverings were introduced not for health protection, but allow hospitality to reopen.

The idea is to reduce aerosols from the infected. Known to work from other countries. IMHO the weak aspect is wear them when 2m can't be maintained as people generally don't. More are around me though now - walking around shops. To some extent people have forgotten 2m distancing outside. Then things like cafes. Stick some 1m square tables outside and have 4 people sitting around them eating and drinking. Then throw in demo's and crowd miss behaviour. That spreads it over wider areas and it goes to work just as it did initially over the entire country. Then zoom users going back to face to face meeting. That sort of thing would have helped the initial spread and is why it mostly worked south to north.

Then there are probably still people about that think it's spread by people with persistent dry coughs as the gov did initially. They have only recently tried to sort out asymptotics. A massive near impossible task so it can only just help rather than fix.

 

[Brigadier]

The idea is to reduce aerosols from the infected. Known to work from other countries.

Have you any evidence for that?

 

[JohnD]

I see benny also has no alternative proposal.

 

[dontbelieveawordofit]

I see benny also has no alternative proposal.

that doesn’t make you clever.
the alternative is , shelter the weak and even vaccinate them if you must.. but let the rest of us get on with it.
believing pie in the sky figures and allowing the hysteria to define your existence is certainly not an option.
I respect your decision to be assimilated without judgement or prejudice.

 

[ajohn]

I wouldn't have any concerns about being jabbed with the Pfizer one. I think there is another where people are jabbed with dead covid but may have heard incorrectly as not much mention. If it works it sounds fundamentally safe. Flu jabs are live virus, weakened and they keep a small stock of the worst one. Genetically engineered virus and a small number of bad side effects. I'd rather hear more about the ins and outs as know how the medical side of things work. It's use may be expedient. That sounds pretty likely.

Behind this though people have to realise something that is a fact of life. Anytime some one takes a medication they may regret it. Numbers are small but would probably sound a lot more significant if the whole population was treated. I have a feeling that covid is going to easily exceed 100,000 deaths in the UK and then there are the "problems" it causes. That has to be considered alongside any side effects. Speed of development - get real folks this is the first time that has been needed. Usually their isn't enough money in it. There is in more than one way with covid.

Debt - turns out interest paid is little different to what it was. The western world can't afford to go broke. The UK going broke wouldn't be good for others as well but less of one compared some other countries. Actually if recovery is going to be quick some lateral thinking on debt might be a good idea and I don't mean negative interest rates. Fat chance though.

 

[ajohn]

Have you any evidence for that?

Go look at how the some of the far east is handling it. Their ideas of lock down have also been different at times. Why do you think they OK'd trains if masks are worn?

Nothing is perfect but anything that helps significantly is worth while.