Tier 3 for London and parts of Essex and Hertfordshire.

[Notch7]

Do the tiers reflect the infection numbers / rates of increase anyway? I doubt it.

very vaguely sort of

tiers are set at county level as its easier than more granular use of district councils...but it means a high rate of infection at the opposite end of a county means low infection areas get caught.

the political answer is: "well if you are in a county will a high infection part, it will spread out, making the low infection areas catch up" (which Id say is bolox)

 

[dontbelieveawordofit]

Like Benny's mum throwing out his 'adult material'

bennys mum died when benny was very young. sorry to spoil your fun.

 

[IT Minion]

tiers are set at county level as its easier than
the political answer is: "well if you are in a county will a high infection part, it will spread out, making the low infection areas catch up" (which Id say is bolox)

In terms of hospital beds it's real, in my area they had to shut the A&E due to Covid-19 patient numbers and divert to a nearby town and they've been shipping out patients to surrounding areas.

 

[Dangee]

London’s rates fluctuate massively area to area. More people live here than Scotland & Wales combined. Some areas are low some are high. The worrying thing is the sudden increase.
My sons school closed Friday & he had been off since last weekend due to someone in his class tested positive. During Last week it became rampant so they shut the whole school.

 

[IT Minion]

bennys mum died when benny was very young. sorry to spoil your fun.

Sorry to hear it, I'll edit the post if you'd like.

 

[Brigadier]

very vaguely sort of

tiers are set at county level as its easier than more granular use of district councils...but it means a high rate of infection at the opposite end of a county means low infection areas get caught.

the political answer is: "well if you are in a county will a high infection part, it will spread out, making the low infection areas catch up" (which Id say is bolox)

I concur.

As I do with the last paragraph too ; if the virus is as infectious as it is supposed to be, there would be no low-infection areas by now, if the high - infection areas were moving all over the place.
Which goes to show that either the virus isn't very infectious, or that most people don't really go out of their local area.

 

[Dangee]

Manchester’s average is down to 144 per 100000.
Or to put it another way-.......
If you walked through a crowd 1000 people, 998 won’t have the virus.

 

[dontbelieveawordofit]

Sorry to hear it, I'll edit the post if you'd like.

not at all . benny has broad shoulders

 

[ReganAndCarter]

Today is the first day I’ve been really depressed about the virus. Checking worldometer I’m shocked. I haven’t bothered for a bit. It’s high everywhere & it just keeps coming back worse than the previous wave. Apart from 2 or 3 countries (hmm) its rapidly increasing among the other two hundred odd.
I’ve been planning a big holiday for the immediate family & some of the extended family.... Tonight, I don’t think it’s going to happen.
We’re going in to T3 tomorrow night & I’m gutted (mainly because, typical bloke, I do 90 percent of my Christmas shopping on Christmas Eve!!) It’s ruining everything, my sons got A levels, my daughter has a new business that has to keep closing. Now Christmas is fxxxxd!!! I can’t see it ending, no one around the world has got on top of it & it keeps changing.. is this how it’s going to be here on in??
I would really like to see China being more proactive & actually assisting with the research to help the world out instead of being defensive & unhelpful.
Rant over

Yes, they're going to keep going with lockdowns until sometime, maybe, never they actually start working. The flu is the problem and Bojo has the solution. Even some on his own side can see through it.

 

[ReganAndCarter]

Makes no difference to me.
Christmas shopping was done online last month, we're all home as both the kids schools closed til next year due to so many positive cases, I only go shopping once a week to the a supermarket that is always empty.

I don't actually know what tier 3 is, but I am in it apparently. No need to change anything I do as I am pretty much in lockdown and isolation permanently.
Mind you, I guess it means my plumber can't fit the 2 radiators that we took off at the end of the summer ... that's a bummer.

My favourite supermarket, this was last Thursday, about 7pm - I think I accidentally got within 20m of somebody for a minute, but only once and we both had masks on.

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Jeez! You must be super high risk to be that scared.

 

[ReganAndCarter]

Mainly because arseholes think " The government told me to do such and such, but they're a Tory government, so fu cked if I'm doing what they tell me to do"

Even when their own MPs are doubting the Tory government?

 

[JohnD]

Even when their own MPs are doubting the Tory government?

well, obviously nobody trusts Doris and the B-team.

if he ever tells the truth it's by accident.

 

[EFLImpudence]

The R value is the acceleration of the virus.

Compared with and to what you have measured, therefore it is calculated from the number of known cases.

So, unknown numbers of untested and/or asymptomatic people before and after a date might surely influence the R number thus rendering it meaningless other than a reference to the number of known cases.

If you were driving a car an R of 1.0 is keeping you speed (number of cases) steady. An R of less than 1 is taking your foot off the acceleration a bit to slow down, an R of over 1 is making the car go faster.

It is not really, is it?
Can you work out how fast you are going 'now' if you do not know the speed (number of cases) at the beginning of the test? I.e. R = 1.5 therefore speed = 1.5 x what?

So the R value lets you know if things are getting worse or better. Yes, you can get that from the number of cases but the R value is the data cleaned up and standardised.

How do they calculate the R number if they don't know how many cases there were and are 'now'?

That's not a perfect analogy, because it's an exponential rather than an absolute decrease in speed as you'd get braking a car.

No it isn't.

 

[EFLImpudence]

Duplicate.

 

[ellal]

So it is just the pandemic then? No wonder you’re all for it! I thought you said you were just waiting for sonny boy to take his exams (when the rest of the country wasn’t!)

At least that’s cleared that up and you’ll be off as soon as this pandemic is over, right?

Ah, the relentless trolling by an ignorant old man who hates being shown up time after time for the pathetic and uninformed individual it actually is...

I used to have a saying that 'there are no stupid people, only those needing help'...

You break that rule!