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The ONS think that the split between dead from Covid-19 to dead with Covid-19 is around 9:1.
So the Office for National STATISTICS 'thinks' of a figure?

Are you sure they haven't got it the other way around?
 
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Hospital admissions are an extremely accurate and give immediate data.

Unlike death because primary cause is difficult to ascertain and for data recording it is slow. That is the reason for using the 28 day thing.....its a quick, consistent method to return data.....very useful in a pandemic. We know it catches other things not Covid, but the methodology is still sound.
How is a hospital admission extremely accurate.
Not every person who enters a hospital dies do they.
You have just admitted it yourself that it catches other things ,not Covid.
So because a primary cause of death is difficult to ascertain then sod it ,let’s just say that they died of Covid and be done with it.
So therefore you have just admitted yourself that people who don’t die of Covid are added to the list of Covid deaths.
Even though the government and chief medical personal have told the public that and yet the sheeple still can’t see it even though they are telling you right to your face lol.
I’m flabbergasted
Your statements are backing up all I’m saying lol.
 
So the Office for National STATISTICS 'thinks' of a figure?

Are you sure they haven't got it the other way around?
How on earth do you cope with these people?
I don’t think I’ve ever encountered anybody so unintelligent as these sheeple.
 
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Lol, i quoted your whole sentence, not an extract. And yes, i know your were trying to be sarcastic, I'm just taking the ****!
 
How is a hospital admission extremely accurate.
Not every person who enters a hospital dies do they.
You have just admitted it yourself that it catches other things ,not Covid.
So because a primary cause of death is difficult to ascertain then sod it ,let’s just say that they died of Covid and be done with it.
So therefore you have just admitted yourself that people who don’t die of Covid are added to the list of Covid deaths.

No he didn't, I sure it was perfectly clear to everyone else. If they are admitted to hospital suffering from covid, then subsequently pass away as a result of the covid within 28 days - then they are counted as a covid death - simples.

The point being, it is a simple way to quickly determine numbers who have died as a result of covid, much quicker than any other methods and accurate.
 
Not every person who enters a hospital dies do they
I did not say they did.

The debate we are having is comparing Covid to flu.

Hospital admissions give accurate, live data.

When acute hospital wards become full of Covid patients....it's a good indicator how bad it is.

Flu has never overwhelmed hospitals like Covid has done.
Flu does not require large numbers of people to stay in ICU wards for long periods
Flu does not leave long term symptoms in the way Covid does
Flu does not kill healthcare workers.

Covid is far worse than flu, so stop trying to say it's similar
 
So therefore you have just admitted yourself that people who don’t die of Covid are added to the list of Covid deaths
No, I have not.

I am trying to have an adult debate with you, one that involves nuance.

You are trying to argue the 28 day rule, proves some conspiracy, it does not. Go and learn about the methodology.
 
I did not say they did.

The debate we are having is comparing Covid to flu.

Hospital admissions give accurate, live data.

When acute hospital wards become full of Covid patients....it's a good indicator how bad it is.

Flu has never overwhelmed hospitals like Covid has done.
Flu does not require large numbers of people to stay in ICU wards for long periods
Flu does not leave long term symptoms in the way Covid does
Flu does not kill healthcare workers.

Covid is far worse than flu, so stop trying to say it's similar
Covid has never overwhelmed hospitals.
Covid does not require large number ps of people to stay in icu wards for long periods.
You know more than the experts as they have said they don’t know the long term effects of Covid.
Plus. So in history no healthcare worker has never died of flu.
Jesus you are good to know that in history no healthcare worker has ever died of flu.
 
No, I have not.

I am trying to have an adult debate with you, one that involves nuance.

You are trying to argue the 28 day rule, proves some conspiracy, it does not. Go and learn about the methodology.
An adult debate requires two adults,I’m one,so where is the other?
 
Your statements are backing up all I’m saying lol
No they are not.

You claimed a person may have tested positive then gets run over by a bus......

Well when are you going to tell me how many people that happens to?

Come on, it's the cornerstone of your argument, so tell me the facts
 
Covid does not require large number ps of people to stay in icu wards for long periods
Yes it does.

Where my niece works, there is normally 30 ICU beds, during mid Jan 2021 there were 300 beds all with Covid. That was also true in many hospitals in London, Liverpool etc
 
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