Natural immunity

[gas112]

Why are so many people in here scared off it

 

[Swwils]

Please explain what you mean by natural immunity.

 

[CBW]

I’m guessing our bodies own natural immune system, which is designed to fight off bacteria and viruses? I’m also guessing it’s Covid related?

 

[Notch7]

Why are so many people in here scared off it

You don’t acquire it until you’ve caught Covid which could you very ill.

 

[CBW]

Looking at the previous, and now locked thread, here’s some evidence relating to deaths alleged to have been caused by the vaccine, larger than the 2 that was quoted by someone:

 

[charliegolf]

Why are so many people in here scared off it

Translation: why are many people here blessed with the common sense to be rightly scared by the whacky notion of pitting their immune system agains a virus that might kill them? When they don't have to.

 

[Swwils]

you ignoring fact that many people had immunity before it appeared and the fact that the vast majority didnt even know they had covid let alone symptoms that made a very small percentage ill

Even if "many" people had a level of natural immunity to covid before it arrived - it doesn't matter because simply not enough of them did, or it was at such a low level it was an irrelevance to the diseases spread via other means. Hence the global pandemic.

Covids ability to be transmitted whilst some are asymptomatic is exactly why it is more difficult to deal with, especially compared to the related SARS, which typically was very obvious when you had it.

It is ironic that your main points only serve to justify the response the entire world has had.

 

[charliegolf]

Looking at the previous, and now locked thread, here’s some evidence relating to deaths alleged to have been caused by the vaccine, larger than the 2 that was quoted by someone:

It is perfectly reasonable to measure and discuss the relative danger of a vaccine to a recipient.

But you (not you personally) can't have it both ways, where it is argued that "Just because they had covid, doesn't mean they died of it."; then so it is that if a vaxxed person dies, it doesn't mean it was because of the vax. Those where the vax WAS deemed a factor remain very small.

 

[Swwils]

YOU MEAN THE SAME COVID THAT THE VACCINATED STILL CARRY AND TRANSMIT ?

There is no need for caps.

And yes vaccinated individuals can still have breakout asymptomatic infections. However it is much much reduced than those without - but this isn't even the primary goal of the vaccine anyway, which was aimed to reduce severe outcomes from the disease. Not to stop you catching it per say.

This is problematic with any very highly transmissible disease. Like measles for instance. We have a very effective vaccine for measles for decades with high uptake, but get we still have endemic patches of it even in the UK.

I think you have a fundamental disconnect with how the vaccine works? Please let me know any questions you have.

 

[HERTS P&D]

How long before this thread gets locked?



Andy

 

[Swwils]

How long before this thread gets locked?



Andy

I find it very worrysome that medical communication is still quite poor even at the best of times.

 

[charliegolf]

The OP is banned from it, so will probably stay a sane debate for a bit. (6 or7 more posts lol)

 

[HERTS P&D]

I work with a lot of sewage, guess how many times I get ill??

Do I have Natural immunity??

Andy

 

[CBW]

It where it is argued that "Just because they had covid, doesn't mean they died of it."; then so it is that if a vaxxed person dies, it doesn't mean it was because of the vax. Those where the vax WAS deemed a factor remain very small.

Precisely, because they had Covid, doesn’t mean they died from it, it just so happens to be logged on the death certificate? Perhaps the same for those who have died from the vaccine?

 

[Swwils]

Precisely, because they had Covid, doesn’t mean they dies from it, it just so happens to be logged on the death certificate? Perhaps the same for those who have dies from the vaccine?

This isn't as clear cut it seems especially with comparisons between countries. The UK has fairly specific ways to do it's death certificates that are more complex than other places - as far as I understand if someone is run over by a bus but has covid then the primary death is logged as bus but the 3rd slot so to speak will say covid.

Other counties do not have the other slots.