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[Deleted member 174758]

Can't see how you can remember in a physical sense given you posts allude to working present day.

Did you not read what I was responding to?:

I remember working in London year's ago, i think it was, down around Harlesden, (don't know whether i spelt that right), early in the morning you would see vans and lorries pulling up and picking up groups of blokes standing outside a pub looking for a days casual work.
I'm Irish myself, the people there were mostly Irish but not exclusively.
In my opinion it was just an informal labour agency, at that time in London there was loads of work, so if you wanted work, you could get it.

And years ago a lot of guys in the trade were paid cash in hand, "on the Lump" as it was called and were picked-up in vans to do a day's labouring or groundwork. There's a lot less of it nowadays due to changes in practices, but also doe to HMRC, etc. Which is what I was responding to and why it all ended (and I well recall when these tax measures came in around 1996 to 1998).

 

[noseall]

I make decisions from my own observations and not from figures put out by political organisations.

Thankfully most on this forum are aware of that fact too. Your observations are not the most reliable and are rarely plausible andy.

 

[transam]

Not really, there are blind fools in left and right camps

Eddie Dempsey, a socialist supported Brexit which put a right wing populist party in power.

Did not Eddie Dempsey visit the Russian occupied region of the Ukraine and pose for pics with the local militia military commender ?

Bit of a Putin fan is he not ???

There you go the Russian / brexit connection

 

[Deleted member 174758]

I can only go off what you post regardless of how you answer

Try reading things. It's an interesting exercise

 

[Notch7]

Oh!

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Still, he did make some good anti EU points, he can't be all bad.

Eddie Dempsey travelled to Italy and met a KGB agent….oh wait a minute that was Vladimir Johnson

 

[Deleted member 174758]

I've read what you say and anybody skimming the posts would accept you was there when the lump was in operation. Given your years your just another one making it up to suit your narrative.

You are firstly ageist, "given your years" indeed. Secondly, I don't need to argue the facts with you. So unless you have anything constructive to add, kiddo, why are you bothering?

 

[Notch7]

I remember when almost all site work was done on "the Lump" (i.e. cash in hand and no safety standards) and when most trades could carry a toolkit over their shoulder or on their back. IR35, IR60 and CIS (about 25 years ago) have pretty much put paid to a lot of it and the need to have a much wider tool kit for many trades nowadays makes turning up with your kit in a bass impossible for most trades (it won't fit). These days almost the only people you'll see doing day labouring are going to be demolition and site cleaning people

I expect Mottie will be along soon posting a picture of a group of ethnic minorities waiting for a bus….and claiming they are trying to get work

 

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[Deleted member 18243]

however perhaps you're the mug for not applying for PIP? Why not take anything you can get as others do?

It sounds like you are abandoning your moral principles and all hope for the future, assuming you ever had any morals or hope.

 

[Deleted member 18243]

Thankfully most on this forum are aware of that fact too. Your observations are not the most reliable and are rarely plausible andy.

Plausible eh?

The whole world stopped production of almost everything and lived off borrowed money for the best part of two years, leading to the severe shortages, rising prices and huge debts we are seeing now.

And you say it was all caused by Britain voting to leave the European Union.

Plausible, hmmm.

 

[Notch7]

Plausible eh?

The whole world stopped production of almost everything and lived off borrowed money for the best part of two years, leading to the severe shortages, rising prices and huge debts we are seeing now.

And you say it was all caused by Britain voting to leave the European Union.

Plausible, hmmm.

So how come UK port volumes are down, UK trade intensity down, UK balance of trade down, UK competiveness down, UK economic recovery slower

all of these can be compared to other countries which have mostly all done better

the difference is Brexit.

Brexit has damaged Britain’s competitiveness, and will make us poorer in the decade ahead • Resolution Foundation

www.resolutionfoundation.org

 

[denso13]

The whole world stopped production of almost everything

No it didn't.

 

[Notch7]

The whole world stopped production of almost everything

actually UK gdp dropped by just 10%

and only limited sectors stopped work, like hospitality and retail

most businesses like the building trades never stopped at all -ask on here, you will find most builders etc carried on.

in fact I know fitted furniture makers, joinery shops that have never been busier

 

[Vinty]

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Not really, there are blind fools in left and right camps

Eddie Dempsey, a socialist supported Brexit which put a right wing populist party in power.

It was the remainer faction in Parliament who put Boris Johnson into Downing street.
Their refusel to accept the result of the EU referendum and implement Brexit gave socialists no alternative but to vote for someone like Boris Johnson.

 

[Deleted member 174758]

And you say it was all caused by Britain voting to leave the European Union.

Plausible, hmmm.

C'mon Andy, neither Brexit nor COVID are the only factors, and well you know it. But one thing is true, as a country 40% of our trade is with the EU - incidentally one of the largestcznd richest markets in the world. Brexit mean MORE red tape, delays and greater costs for every business exporting to the EU. Markets in Japan, Australia, etc many thousands of miles away can't ever replace more local markets, primarily because the cost of shipping and documentation eats into profit margins for bigger concerns and makes small quantity export for smaller concerns prohibitively expensive, but also because those markets are very small in comparison to the EU. By leaving the Customs Union and Single Market we have, in effect, erected a trade barrier to UK firms wishing to export to the EU, whilst simultaneously not implimenting the same (required) barriers to trade in goods being imported from the EU - in other words we have given EU exporters a major trade advantage over indigenous producers. And Brexit has cut off many industries and agriculture from the necessary labour to run. It's all very well talking about using the unemployed, but they generally don't livevwhere the vacancies are. Those aren't all of the downsides to Brexit, but to say there are none would be Nelsonian at the very least