RAAC

[Stadan20]

So why close just schools ? Any other commercial premises built with this stuff?

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Nothing to do with unskilled workers.
The main contractor who got the contract in the first place is responsible along with those who were supposed to make sure the relevent regulations were observed.

Correct. Tell Bod.

If you read the whole thread you'd see the relevance of my comment

 

[denso13]

The main contractor who got the contract in the first place is responsible along with those who were supposed to make sure the relevent regulations were observed.

It only had a 30 year life expectancy, no one did anything "wrong". Except that it has been left in place much longer than it should have been.

 

[diy_fun_uk]

Everything today is done on the cheap.
How many modern buildings will still be here in 50 years.
We live in a fur coat and no knickers society.
Cheap tat from China and single use fashion made from plastic bottles gives the illusion of wealth, yet people are pulling their own teeth with pliers because they can't access proper treatment.
Anything of of substance is becoming beyond the reach of ordinary folk.
On the subject of concrete, would these foreigners get a jib in the UK today.


Constructed in the second century CE as a Roman temple, the Pantheon features the world's largest unreinforced concrete dome. Having survived centuries of natural disasters and conflicts, the Pantheon still stands today as a major engineering feat

Yeah it's funny how, in many cases, 'progress' seems to equate to building stuff as cheaply as possible whilst extracting the maximum possible from consumers. Yes yes, it's 'business', I get all that. Nevertheless, funny how the council houses I've lived in over the years, built 60-100 years ago, are infinity better than the sh1t being thrown up these days.

On the subject of the product in this thread, is it not the case that (correct me if wrong) the product itself is fine if the building itself is properly maintained? i.e. part of the issue is poorly maintained buildings that allow water ingress etc, something this product is far from good at dealing with.

 

[denso13]

Any other commercial premises built with this stuff?

Seems restricted to public buildings.

 

[Stadan20]

Seems restricted to public buildings.

Any explanations to why ?

 

[Deleted member 294929]

Any explanations to why ?

Quick cheap and easy I suppose I would imagine the new towns will be at the front of this.

 

[Stadan20]

Quick cheap and easy I suppose I would imagine the new towns will be at the front of this.

If that was the case most if not all buildings would have used the stuff wouldn't they ?

 

[Deleted member 294929]

I've said many a time Roy our building industry is in a shocking state. Its full from the greedy men at the top and to the bottom with unskilled or low skilled workers.
It alwsys has been and is even more so today.

Correct. Tell Bod.

If you read the whole thread you'd see the relevance of my comment

That's what I said. And the mistakes are still happening. No one is learning.

If you think Unskilled workers building good buildings then your head is up you armpit.

 

[Deleted member 294929]

If that was the case most if not all buildings would have used the stuff wouldn't they ?

I wasn't born so no idea. Some of the houses in my town were based on Canadian and Swedish design and so concrete wouldn't have suited. Maybe???

We do also have houses that I suspect may have been built the same way.

 

[denso13]

Any explanations to why ?

Just a design solution which fitted the need/design of schools. Pre-cast slabs mainly used for flat roofs.

 

[Brigadier]

Seems restricted to public buildings.

Any explanations to why ?

Post-war national building program, when money and materials were in short supply.

What I heard, anyway.


Problem - as I've posted before - is that all governments build stuff with limited lifespans, but neither plan, nor budget for, programmed renewal.
Worse, they all try to ignore the failing infrastructure, until it can't be patched up any longer.


Back to (but not solely limited to the issue of) RAAC, imho one of the absolute worst decisions to make is flat roofing buildings.

 

[securespark]

Back burner? Whistle blower?
Can't blame it on asylum seekers? Nor the French? It wasn't in the Mail?
Thought they wouldn't still be in power?

Never mind, if nobody else, the Tories can blame it on the Labour party.

That's what they usually do.

 

[Roy Bloom]

Hospitals affected as well as other public buildings.

So why close just schools ? Any other commercial premises built with this stuff?

 

[Deleted member 294929]

Never mind, if nobody else, the Tories can blame it on the Labour party.

That's what they usually do.

But they are either dead or as good as dead.

These mistakes are still happening. No one is or was doing their jobs properly. Its not just the politicians, we have a far bigger problem than that.