Assisted Dying Bill (passed)

[pete01]

'They'? Who are you referring to?

Well the local councils will assess your finances so maybe they wont like not being able to do that.

This doesn't have to be an argument you know? Not everything does

 

[noseall]

Well the local councils will assess your finances so maybe they wont like not being able to do that.

Sorry, I don’t see your reasoning.

This doesn't have to be an argument you know?

No. It’s a discussion, asking you to make sense of your posts.

 

[pete01]

Sorry, I don’t see your reasoning.

No. It’s a discussion, asking you to make sense of your posts.

Well it makes sense to me, if I can end my life before I need care (assuming im able to and have still got capacity) my family get my money

 

[Notch7]

I've seen 2 members of my family put effectively, on the 'Liverpool Pathway' - i.e staved to death; it's no longer call that . Now if that isn't cruel and heartless I don't know what is? It is horrible to see people asking for food (and to an extent, drink) whilst the family wait around watching while they slowly die

That’s what they did to my mum.

I took my dad in to visit her in hospital, we were taken to one side by the ward Dr and a nurse, who then said: “your wife is close to the end of her life, it’s best we stop feeding her (she was fed by tube).

Although my mum was half paralysed by a severe stroke, she was able to chat pretty well with my Dad, pretty normally really, so you can imagine how devastated my Dad was being told that news. My Dad said to them “I don’t think I want that”, so instead they withheld oxygen when she returned to the care home and she died within days. I could accepted that my mum was near the end of her life but her death was totally engineered with no consultation whatsoever.

There are so many horrible stories about the Liverpool pathway it’s gives me the creeps hearing the phrase.

 

[noseall]

Well it makes sense to me, if I can end my life before I need care (assuming im able to and have still got capacity) my family get my money

What has that got to do with the local council 'assessing your finances'? How does the local council end up with the money?

It's almost like you are suggesting that old people should kill themselves so that their offspring (whether they are despised by the parent or not) get their parents' money, rather than spend it elsewhere?

 

[IT Minion]

If you've watched someone die with something like Motor Neuron Disease, where the mind is sharp but the body fails a little more ever day, trapping them until eventually they drown on their own saliva, then you understand the need.

 

[crystal ball]

When mother died, she was in ICU hooked up to ventilators, drips etc, doc told me she was near the end, I said she did not want prolonging, we went home and returned later, all tubes & drips were removed, pretty sure she had a shot of morphine, died peacefully

 

[MNW67]

What has that got to do with the local council 'assessing your finances'? How does the local council end up with the money?

It is more likely to end up paying private companies to provide care, either in a residential setting or carers in your own home. Either way, some people would prefer to die beforehand and leave that money to their kids.

 

[pete01]

It's almost like you are suggesting that old people should kill themselves so that their offspring (whether they are despised by the parent or not) get their parents' money, rather than spend it elsewhere?

How dare you suggest that of me you don't know me.

I've watched both my parents suffer and both have said at some point I've had enough I just want to go now, I don't care about their money I want them comfortable and with their dignity.

 

[pete01]

It is more likely to end up paying private companies to provide care, either in a residential setting or carers in your own home. Either way, some people would prefer to die beforehand and leave that money to their kids.

Exactly

 

[denso13]

It is more likely to end up paying private companies to provide care, either in a residential setting or carers in your own home. Either way, some people would prefer to die beforehand and leave that money to their kids.

Could that be unnecessary pressure. "I'm not too keen on dying, but I'll do it for the kids"?

 

[pete01]

Could that be unnecessary pressure. "I'm not too keen on dying, but I'll do it for the kids"?

Or I don't fancy going into a home, people feeding me and taking me to the toilet, I'll go now thanks, as I have no quality of life?

 

[denso13]

Or I don't fancy going into a home, people feeding me and taking me to the toilet, I'll go now thanks, as I have no quality of life?

Could be, yes.

 

[pete01]

Could be, yes.

I do see that it's an awkward situation

 

[denso13]

I do see that it's an awkward situation

Like I said, I have thought about a lot, but haven't come down one way or the other. I'm really unsure what's best.