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The army can have a play when the complicated stuff is over, they are the low skilled side of things, the mister muscle users if you will.
Totally predictable: Trump discusses giving land to Russia
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Gotcha, I might see if I can get in. I have a good supply of Mr Muscle that could be quite handy for them,
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A direct, full-scale military conflict between NATO and Russia would likely be a prolonged and devastating war, not a quick one. While a quick resolution is possible in some hypothetical scenarios, factors such as Russia's arsenal of over 5,500 nuclear weapons, the unified military strength of the largest military alliance in the world, and the differing strategic objectives of the two sides make an extended conflict far more probable.
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that is an opinion piece by a think tank that is dedicated to diplomacy to end wars.
it conveniently ignores the fact that a peace deal with Putin will lead to a prolonged war with Putin constantly expanding his empire.
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A peace deal works both ways, NATO would be better placed to stop his expansion plans in its tracks.
Putin ignores all peace deals, he always has
It’s better to kick him out of Ukraine now whilst Russia is weak.
I find it odd how supporters of Farage and Trump are so weak on Putin.
Maybe it’s because Farage and Trump are on Putins side.
you mean oil revenues dropped world wide but when you are still bringing in a fortune from them in the first place it doesnt really affect you .
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Saudi Oil Export Revenue Slumps to Lowest in Almost Four Years
Saudi Arabia’s revenue from oil exports slumped to the lowest in almost four years in April as crude prices crashed.
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poor old notch clutching at straws
yet not strong enough to beat an army ranked twentieth in the world; and defeat a country with an economy not even in the top fifty.
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Fewer Rubles, yes. But the Ruble is up 40%, so obvs there would be fewer.
Russia is remarkably self-sufficient. They used to depend on grain etc from elsewhere, but not now. Ukraine's will be useful when it is handed over.
I'm pretty disgusted that the EU leaders don't have the Balls to ask Trump why he's taking Putin's line. Is it just all about keeping the US cost down?
Ukraine needs to kill as many Russians as possible, military and otherwise, to put pressure on P at home.
If U blew up the gas line under the Black sea to Europe, that would hurt Russian economy a bit more. But half of Europe gets supplies from it.
Zelensky is one Russian missile or glide bomb away from becoming a historical detail.
Ukraine is nearly out of the 155mm shells used for Western systems although some more supplies have been specified.
They also need 152mms for the ex soviet systems, which the west doesn't make. Ukraine has increased its own refilling and supply capabilities. Overall no, they don't have enough. That's being stressed by Russian commentary, while the West's emphasizes a slightly better long term view.
Earlier this year the Russian firing advantage was over 5 to 1.
We always felt Russia was going to win this. Many of us posted that, about week one.
If R needs to use small nukes, they'll find a reason, and say, "Now see what you've made us do".
Unless Europe steps up its capablilities and willingness to repel Russia, which it's a very long way from right now, I expect P will find other targets in the South East, like Georgia. Europe will probably not care enough to do the necessary to defend a Georgia.
Europe needs the resources to match and beat whatever Russia does. Bear in mind that Russia's initial advances will be ground troops and artillery, which needs a higher level of aggression to deter if you can't match by type. Drone developments will be important and it's Russia leading there now, too.
And Europe is far from a model of unity.
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Extremists/extremism. Birds of a feather. They probably have portraits of Trump and Viktor Orbàn on their bedroom walls, above the bunk bed.
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Because they know they are dealing with a lying grifter who cannot be trusted to keep his word. We and the EU have given Trump everything he asked for. We have massively increased defence spending, agreed to pay for all the US military supplies, agreed a bad temporary trade deal. All to keep him on side over Ukraine. And then Trump turns around and sh1ts on us all once again.
