Climate Change

[aveatry]

Net zero. We are all paying for rich folk in big houses to have free power...
Feel scammed yet

I have a ‘zero bill’ home – and you’re paying for it

Ed Miliband has given up trying to promise £300 a year off our energy bills. He is now dangling the prospect of something even better: ‘zero bill’ homes. He is expected to announce a new £13 billion ‘Warm Homes Fund’ to subsidise solar panels and heat pumps which could mean some householders...

spectator.com

 

[johnny2007]

Net zero. We are all paying for rich folk in big houses to have free power...
Feel scammed yet

I have a ‘zero bill’ home – and you’re paying for it

Ed Miliband has given up trying to promise £300 a year off our energy bills. He is now dangling the prospect of something even better: ‘zero bill’ homes. He is expected to announce a new £13 billion ‘Warm Homes Fund’ to subsidise solar panels and heat pumps which could mean some householders...

spectator.com

I've been feeling scammed since the 80s when they started with global warming.
By 2010 London was supposed to be on the coast and enjoying tropical climate...
-2⁰ today and ice never melt.
Of course I feel scammed!

 

[Brigadier]

Net zero. We are all paying for rich folk in big houses to have free power...
Feel scammed yet

I have a ‘zero bill’ home – and you’re paying for it

Ed Miliband has given up trying to promise £300 a year off our energy bills. He is now dangling the prospect of something even better: ‘zero bill’ homes. He is expected to announce a new £13 billion ‘Warm Homes Fund’ to subsidise solar panels and heat pumps which could mean some householders...

spectator.com

Or stick with fossil fuels, and still pay for rich folk to laugh at you.....

BP cuts boss’s pay by 30% after company misses profit targets

BP cuts boss’s pay by 30% after company misses profit targets

Murray Auchincloss paid £5.4m in 2024 as oil company ditched green investment strategy

www.theguardian.com

You really are a melt

 

[robinbanks]

By 2010 London was supposed to be on the coast and enjoying tropical climate...

You do understand that weather systems are complex, and that global warming doesn't necessarily mean local warming, don't you?

 

[johnny2007]

You do understand that weather systems are complex, and that global warming doesn't necessarily mean local warming, don't you?

No, I understand what they were claiming in the 80s and 90s to be totally wrong.
Like all other models they have predicted.
Give me one example of a climate macro model that turn out to be exact and I will not feel scammed again.

 

[IT Minion]

No, I understand what they were claiming in the 80s and 90s to be totally wrong.
Like all other models they have predicted.
Give me one example of a climate macro model that turn out to be exact and I will not feel scammed again.

Exact? That's ridiculous, you can't predict the weather a week from now 'exactly'. Expecting perfection is always going to let you claim they're wrong. But here's an analysis of some of the most prominent modelling from the 70s onwards.

Analysis: How well have climate models projected global warming? - Carbon Brief

Scientists have been making projections of future global warming using climate models of increasing complexity for the past four decades.

www.carbonbrief.org

 

[Brigadier]

Give me one example of a climate macro model

Why ask for a model, when there is actual data?

2025 is double-record breaker: UK’s warmest and sunniest year on record

2025 has broken historical climate records, with provisional Met Office figures showing it has been both the warmest and sunniest year on record for the UK.

www.metoffice.gov.uk

 

[IT Minion]

https://www.giss.nasa.gov/pubs/docs/1988/1988_Hansen_ha02700w.pdf

In 1988 Hansen Scenario B predicted 1.3 degrees warming by 2025 (37 years into the then future). It was 1.42 degrees warmer last year, although that is from the 1850 baseline and Hansen used a more recent one which is slightly higher so the exact difference is hard to measure, especially as his graph uses a 5 year average so any data since 2022 can't really be checked and only then by doing more googling than you deserve.

 

[noseall]

Give me one example of a climate macro model that turn out to be exact and I will not feel scammed again.

You want an exact weather forecast, otherwise you feel scammed?

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• noseall
• 17 Jan 2015
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You and aveatry ought to get a room together. You could play ping-pong with your brain cell.

 

[aveatry]

Why ask for a model, when there is actual data?

2025 is double-record breaker: UK’s warmest and sunniest year on record

2025 has broken historical climate records, with provisional Met Office figures showing it has been both the warmest and sunniest year on record for the UK.

www.metoffice.gov.uk

Makes up for the previous rainiest and least sunniest then - that's all

 

[aveatry]

You want an exact weather forecast, otherwise you feel scammed?

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• noseall
• 17 Jan 2015
• 3

You and aveatry ought to get a room together. You could play ping-pong with your brain cell.

You are just a hypocrite of the worse order.

 

[Brigadier]

Mudding waters in pure leftist style.
How come do you all act similarly and use all same tacticts?

Like this........

Makes up for the previous rainiest and least sunniest then - that's all

 

[johnny2007]

Exact? That's ridiculous, you can't predict the weather a week from now 'exactly'. Expecting perfection is always going to let you claim they're wrong. But here's an analysis of some of the most prominent modelling from the 70s onwards.

Analysis: How well have climate models projected global warming? - Carbon Brief

Scientists have been making projections of future global warming using climate models of increasing complexity for the past four decades.

www.carbonbrief.org

Analysis written by the same people who got everything totally wrong.

Why ask for a model, when there is actual data?

2025 is double-record breaker: UK’s warmest and sunniest year on record

2025 has broken historical climate records, with provisional Met Office figures showing it has been both the warmest and sunniest year on record for the UK.

www.metoffice.gov.uk

Have you ever researched the way they calculate these temperatures?
If their claims were true, by now we would be roasting and the planet would be on fire.

 

[JohnD]

If their claims were true, by now we would be roasting and the planet would be on fire.

You are mistaken.

 

[noseall]

You are just a hypocrite of the worse order.

Utter nonsense.