Sorry, but this is important.

[JohnD]

The problem he has, and you, JohnD, KoolPC, and many others have, is that you will not stop conflating the belief that scientific facts about sex matter, and the belief that any man can become a woman just by saying so.

A man cannot become a woman. The only people saying he can are you and your sidekick.

A man can say he is a woman, that is not at all the same thing.

 

[Koolpc]

A man cannot become a woman. The only people saying he can are you and your sidekick.

A man can say he is a woman, that is not at all the same thing.

Exactly!!

 

[JohnD]

Dr Upton is and was recognised as a woman.

Upton was born a boy. He grew up as a boy and became a man. He married a woman and mentioned to colleagues that they were trying for a baby. He now calls himself a woman. Billy asserts that he is a woman.

A man cannot turn into a woman.

 

[pete01]

A man cannot turn into a woman

Its really odd that people need to be told this.

 

[Koolpc]

Billy Joel's new song:

'Upton girl' "He's been living in an upside down world"...

 

[JohnD]

please explain why the employment tribunal rejected every single allegation made against Dr. Upton.

Morqthana is so taken by Doctor Upton that he falsely claims the tribunal rejected the description of his behaviour that I provided, and disputes my mention of his size.

And also tells us that he should be allowed into women's changing rooms because he is such a pretty imitation woman.

 

[JohnD]

Source? It looks like biology for dummies. But even that source recognises that intersex and variations occur.

Billy hopes to trick us into thinking that men who claim to be women are the same as people having a genetic abnormality.

 

[Dec27]

We are not still in touch.

But I have never thought that you are the same person. You write very differently.

I know. I was just taking the pee out of silly odds

 

[Highway Man]

So this thread was a lie then? Turns out he isn't sorry and it wasn't important.
Pffftttt

 

[JohnD]

You've adopted the lie invented by the Sun newspaper, and JohnD was quick to thank you for it.

No idea why billy thinks that is a lie.

"Transgender Dr Beth Upton confirmed he would treat a female patient who requested a women doctor, and would only stop if she requested one after he started treatment. The medic made the confession as he was quizzed for a second day in an employment tribunal brought about by a suspended nurse."

Billy did not read the tribunal transcript.

I did.

See also

Trans Dr Upton WOULD treat patient who wants female doctor amid tribunal delay

The NHS Fife tribunal has been paused until Wednesday after the health board were late submitting documents, with Dr Beth Upton to be questioned again.

www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk

 

[johnny2007]

What genetic characteristics are used to make the definition?

Already explained.
Asking again doesn't change the answer.
Also, this is your classic trick to mud waters: ask something, get an answer you don't like, write 3 pages of rubbish, ask same question again claiming it's not been answered, repeat ad infinitum.
Told you before, we are ALL a lot more intelligent than you, that's why we're free and you're locked up.

But does it mean that people can only be either male or female?

Yes, unless they are born with a genetic anomaly which is extremely rare (0.018-0.05%)

Ridicule is not a helpful contribution to the debate.

What's ridicule? The fact that if you claimed of being a horse you would still be a human and treated as such, retaining your human rights?
You're contradicting yourself, Himmy.
Did you take your pills and had a nap as I suggested?

So I'm ignorant for saying that not all women have "wide" hips, some are narrow and yet they can still give birth.

Yes, you're very ignorant.
It's not just a matter of wide or narrow.
First Google hit for you:

Pelvis Anatomy 101: How the Bones Connect & How They Accommodate Childbirth

Your pelvic anatomy differs by the reproductive organs you have. These differences help scientists assign sex to skeletons.

my.clevelandclinic.org

Then you can always Google "male Vs female hip bones" and educate yourself rather than talk rubbish.
And before you say: "yes but at birth..."
Here there's plenty for you before they put your straightjacket on:

Google Search

You better stop this "Himmy" nonsense - all it does is call attention to your refusal to debate properly.

Himmy, you're a racist bigot in drags, certified!

 

[JohnD]

Morqthana complains about ridicule?

I suppose that is a risk you run if you persistently claim that a man is a woman, and nobody can tell the difference.

 

[morqthana]

Already explained.

No, it hasn't been. Nobody has yet explained what genetic characteristics are used to define women. So that's falsehood #1.

Told you before, we are ALL a lot more intelligent than you, that's why we're free and you're locked up.

Falsehoods #2, #3, & #4.

Yes, unless they are born with a genetic anomaly which is extremely rare (0.018-0.05%)

Doesn't matter how rare - either sex is binary, or it is not. And it's not. BTW - that figure is wrong. In terms of XY chromosome abnormalities alone it's at least 0.34%. #5.

What's ridicule? The fact that if you claimed of being a horse you would still be a human and treated as such, retaining your human rights?

This is:

Culturally you can now call yourself anything, a horse if you like, and the nonsense brigade will play along with you and call you a hero.

You're contradicting yourself,

#6

Himmy.

#7

Yes, you're very ignorant.
It's not just a matter of wide or narrow.
First Google hit for you:

Pelvis Anatomy 101: How the Bones Connect & How They Accommodate Childbirth

Your pelvic anatomy differs by the reproductive organs you have. These differences help scientists assign sex to skeletons.

my.clevelandclinic.org

Then you can always Google "male Vs female hip bones" and educate yourself rather than talk rubbish.

#8.

You could always read

a woman has larger hips for child birth

and realise I was replying to that.

Himmy, you're a racist bigot in drags, certified!

#9 and #10.

What's the word for someone who writes 10 falsehoods in one post?

 

[morqthana]

A racist bigot in drags.

Himmy, you're a racist bigot in drags, certified!

What do these insults say about your willingness or ability to participate in an intelligent, mature, and rational way?

 

[warey4life]

And that has no causal relationship to the fact that sex isn't binary, except in the frothing imaginations of transphobes.

You'll have to explain this to me.
In terms of sex there is male and there is female. So how is sex not binary?