Capital Punishment

[Highway Man]

If there is no trial, who decides if they are guilty? The Home Secretary?

This is purely for those who have committed serious offences and no trial is required to prove or otherwise their guilt, if it takes the home secretary to authorise it then no longer than two weeks from arrest to death.

 

[noseall]

Exactly that, no long drawn out trials costing the tax payer thousands, no legal representation just a priest if they want one.

Sounds like a litigators dream. Expect the tax payer to fork out billions.

 

[transam]

Who would decide and how?

Who would decide what ??and how well er common sense

Examples

2 blokes behead a soldier on the streets of London in broad day light ???

Some bloke crossed the road in broad day light and butchers labour MP Joe cox in broad day light

Some fruit cake butchers Tory MP David Amiss in his office

How would you decide there guilt ????

Those 4 would be bumped off ( smoking gun evidence)

How they are bumped off I don’t really care tbh

Left to me they would know pain / terror and fear before they are bumped off

Stuff there human rights as well

 

[motorbiking]

Who would decide what ??and how well er common sense

Examples

2 blokes behead a soldier on the streets of London in broad day light ???

Some bloke crossed the road in broad day light and butchers labour MP Joe cox in broad day light

Some fruit cake butchers Tory MP David Amiss in his office

How would you decide there guilt ????

Those 4 would be bumped off ( smoking gun evidence)

How they are bumped off I don’t really care tbh

Left to me they would know pain / terror and fear before they are bumped off

Stuff there human rights as well

what if the voices told them?

 

[transam]

what if the voices told them?

Don’t care claimed mental health issues would be no excuse

Bump em
Off

 

[Highway Man]

Like smashing a pop singer in the face with a rifle butt because you disgree with them - kind of beatings....

"....A disgusting cretin that thinks he is clever. I would happily smash him in his face with a rifle butt.....

Some intellect.

Charge it !!!!!

 

[Vinty]

and corporal punishment

Yes 100% but only for consenting adults behind closed doors.

 

[Vinty]

Miscarriages of justice can happen.

Take a look at this video, 'dave allen as a judge' https://share.google/5hCntNrdcYaC4JDiz

 

[MNW67]

Who would decide what ??and how well er common sense

Examples

2 blokes behead a soldier on the streets of London in broad day light ???

Some bloke crossed the road in broad day light and butchers labour MP Joe cox in broad day light

Some fruit cake butchers Tory MP David Amiss in his office

How would you decide there guilt ????

Those 4 would be bumped off ( smoking gun evidence)

How they are bumped off I don’t really care tbh

Left to me they would know pain / terror and fear before they are bumped off

Stuff there human rights as well

I'm just interested in the process you envisage. You seem to be saying that whenever somebody is found guilty of murder with 'smoking gun' evidence then the perpetrator should be executed. I am asking who would make the decision that the threshold for the evidence being sufficiently certain has been met. The most likely people would be the jury making an additional verdict on top of the normal verdict, the judge or the Home Secretary. There has never been such a system anywhere in the world, so I thought it would be interesting to discuss how it might work in practice.

 

[Highway Man]

I'm just interested in the process you envisage. You seem to be saying that whenever somebody is found guilty of murder with 'smoking gun' evidence then the perpetrator should be executed. I am asking who would make the decision that the threshold for the evidence being sufficiently certain has been met. The most likely people would be the jury making an additional verdict on top of the normal verdict, the judge or the Home Secretary. There has never been such a system anywhere in the world, so I thought it would be interesting to discuss how it might work in practice.

Have you any suggestions? I am keen to hear from you and MBK as the legal eagles how this could be implemented?

 

[morqthana]

Paul Hill
Gerry Conlon
Patrick Armstrong
Carole Richardson
Anne Maguire
Patrick Maguire Sr.
Patrick Maguire Jr.
Vincent Maguire
Sean Smyth
Patrick O'Neill
Patrick "Giuseppe" Conlon
Hugh Callaghan
Patrick Hill
Gerard Hunter
Richard McIlkenny
William Power
John Walker

 

[Highway Man]

Paul Hill
Gerry Conlon
Patrick Armstrong
Carole Richardson
Anne Maguire
Patrick Maguire Sr.
Patrick Maguire Jr.
Vincent Maguire
Sean Smyth
Patrick O'Neill
Patrick "Giuseppe" Conlon
Hugh Callaghan
Patrick Hill
Gerard Hunter
Richard McIlkenny
William Power
John Walker

It's now 2026 not 1976

 

[morqthana]

If the crime was caught on camera or 10 people witnessed it, making them 100% guilty then it's a yes from me.

Any doubt at all it has to be a no.

What about AI? In years to come its going to be very easy, if not now.

Good point

I've not started watching Series 3 of The Capture yet (iPlayer), so I can't comment on it.

From memory S2 was overblown.

But S1 - really worth a watch, and very scary.

 

[morqthana]

It's now 2026 not 1976

So?

 

[morqthana]

Have you any suggestions? I am keen to hear from you and MBK as the legal eagles how this could be implemented?

It should be Transam you are keen to hear from. It was his idea, therefore it's mandatory for him to be able to answer MNW67's questions.