Am I going to be sued ?

am I admitting fault by paying something

Yes. Your admitting your own work is sub standard. Even though it may not be.

But the fact is she paid you in full when the job was finished so she must have been happy and then you let her give you a shafting.

You probably priced too low to begin with.
We often win contracts because we are the most expensive. Even in these austere times.


There was a mark on the paper which i got off and the cat had walked along the still tacky window sill !!! I said ok then and re-painted the window.

You should have billed her for this work. Your not a charity. If you let people think you are then they will take advantage.
She knew she had you by the ba**s after that.
 
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He must have been a cowboy all along then. Why else would he stump up?

joe, that's despicable.

Yes. Your admitting your own work is sub standard. Even though it may not be.

It does not mean that at all. I think that's mean.

It is possible to make payments in cases like this without any admission of guilt. It happens all the time, even in high profile cases where hospitals are being sued for medical negligence.

I'm not speaking for mkb at all, but if it were me, I'd have wanted the woman off my back a long long time ago and I'd have been tempted to pay up just do get rid of her. That's what she was banking on, after all.

You obviously have never been unfortunate enough to be in a similar position. Don't you dare scoff and say "I would never be in that position because my workmanship is excellent": anyone can get caught in a trap like this, even people whose work is faultless. Yes, the complainant may well not have a leg to stand on, but if they are mad enough (and the ones who take good jobs to court are, they make stuff up and turn a good job into a bad one), they will take it to court and they rely on piling pressure on the good innocent tradesman and rely on them caving in before the date and paying up out of court.

So, I think he's done extremely well to get this far without having a nervous breakdown and I think you're being very unfair having a go at him.
 
Whilst on this subject-- and further to 'our' claim against the cleaners really shoddy work and 90% of the work not even done -'our' saga is still ongoing .
We won the small claims judgement in January this year-- and the cleaning fim asked for 2 months to pay.
When we walked outside the court-- the cleaners said we wont be getting a penny of the award.
The award was for £370 . The judge did not even have to see our photo/video evidence to reach a decision. If the cleaners had paid the amount withing 28 days- the CCJ would have been written off--but- the numpties would not pay.
We have now served the cleaners with a court summons to appear in court this month for a disclosure of information hearing .
They must turn up and bring along ALL documents relating to their business and personal affairs . Savings accounts, bank statements, mortgage or rent statements, Hp agreements, debts etc etc .
We are looking forward to the day --because we know they are a dodgy firm and do lots of cashy jobs .
The cost of the summons is added onto their debt-and if they dont turn up a new summons is issued and that cost goes on also - as well as our expenses and anything else we can claim for.
If they dont show up for the second hearing- the judge will issue a summons for the arrest of the woman who runs the outfit-- and she 'can' be jailed .
When we have all the details regarding their true financial position- we can then decide what action to take . By that time- the debt will be well over the £600 limit and we will then instruct the 'Sheriffs dept' to collect the debt- via a high court summons.

Yes-- the whole small claims court thing is very stressful and saps the life out of anyone .-whichever side of the fence you are on.
It is not a process I would consider again.
But- principles have overidden common sense in this case .

People are lead to believe small claims court is simple and easy-- take it from me-- it really is not .
 
We have now served the cleaners with a court summons to appear in court this month for a disclosure of information hearing .
They must turn up and bring along ALL documents relating to their business and personal affairs . Savings accounts, bank statements, mortgage or rent statements, Hp agreements, debts etc etc .

Why do they need to bring ALL this information?

A lot of it is confidential and has no relevance. What gives you the right to view it?
 
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Cuz it's April Fool's day - that's why.
 
We have now served the cleaners with a court summons to appear in court this month for a disclosure of information hearing .
They must turn up and bring along ALL documents relating to their business and personal affairs . Savings accounts, bank statements, mortgage or rent statements, Hp agreements, debts etc etc .

Why do they need to bring ALL this information?

A lot of it is confidential and has no relevance. What gives you the right to view it?

Because it is THE LAW--that's why.
It is relevent- because they (the debtor) owes me (the creditor) money .
They have been tried and found responsible in a court of law.
They asked the District judge for 2 months to pay-which he granted and then they just ignored his judgement .
We have every right to send the bailiffs in , freeze their bank account, put a garnashee on them -and a few other options too.Including of course the course we are presently taking --ie - statement of information.
Every time we take some legal action--it costs us money usually £100 each time .
The reason for getting the information is so we will know the debtors assets and liabilities -- and we can then decide which path we want to take which will be best to recover our losses.
They/she now has a CCJ around her neck for 6 years -and even if she pays up- it will remain with her for 6 years-- and rightly so .

Please do not forget - that firm/woman tried to stuff us and steal money from us- for work she did not do.
The only reason she wont pay- is because she does not want to -simple as that .. She is laughing at the Law .
She had a chance to settle things during mediation- and she would not .
Even if she pays- we will probably be £1000 out of pocket .

We have EVERY right to know her assetts .

If you have never trodden this path-- you will have no idea of the stress involved or the amount of work required to win a case .

I must also add - the woman is a blagger and a chancer and I feel she has a lot to hide.
She will have to 'bare her soul' at the hearing and she will open up a BIG can of worms for herself which will be noticed --especially by me .
Look-- she employs 3 or 4 people - she says she is always busy and advertises in every internet search engine you can name .
She uses several different names and 2 addresses.

YET-- she is not VAT registered . Got it ??.
She would not accet a cheque off my wife when my wife went to pay her last year . She said she needed wanted cash because she only goes to the bank every 3 weeks . !! (her residence is les than 2 miles from her bank).
When we took her to court-- she could not produce a copy of the micky mouse photocopy hand written receipt she gave us for the works .

Go figure .

She is also a very nasty piece of work .
 
securespark,
You've got it spot on mate...thanks for the kind words and appreciate your comments.Joe 90...well we all know about Joe 90 !!
Was a difficult decision to make really...one of my concerns was, basically she was a crackpot...and could have accused me of anything...had she lost the case...but I feel that she thinks she's won...maybe she did maybe she didn't. Anyway it's all done and dusted.
Learnt a lot from the whole thing though including the ineptitude of the legal system, lack of communication between the courts and mediation. etc., etc.,
Had a little 'fun' at the end though...e-mail from mediation said send cheque directly to client...I did. Then got the cheque back from her lawyers three weeks later saying 'Please send the cheque to us as requested' So I sent it back with the e-mail from mediation telling me to send it direct to client !! Then they sent it back, asking me nicely, to send it back to them....I replied ' Sorry, am following the instructions of the court's mediation service and am a little concerned that should I not follow mediation's instructions I may be in contempt of court !!
Anyway, a number of letters later, I eventually got bored and sent it to them.....childish of me perhaps but never mind.
Thanks for everyones advice by the way (even you Joe 90 ) and thanks again securespark for your last comments.
 
I gave you good advice at the start - you chose not to take it. You have been done over mate. That's not something to brag about. Then again we only have your side of the story don't we? You never did post any pictures.
 
I gave you good advice at the start - you chose not to take it. You have been done over mate. That's not something to brag about. Then again we only have your side of the story don't we? You never did post any pictures.

Hey Joe -- have you ever ignored anyones advice ?.
Hindsight is a wonderful thing.
YES i did post the pics on here-- but a few certain people ruined it - so- I took them off.
If you REALLY would like to see the pics-- I will send them to you .
Not a problem.

ps- not done over yet Joe .
May take a while- but we have 6 years to build up the costs and claim them back.
Besides that--have you ever seen the tax dodger informer website ?. :)
 
I wasn't talking to you - start your own thread if you want to waffle on.
 
I gave you good advice at the start - you chose not to take it. You have been done over mate. That's not something to brag about. Then again we only have your side of the story don't we? You never did post any pictures.

Sling your hook, joe, you're boring me now... :rolleyes:
 
FFS - I wasn't talking to you - start your own fookin thread.
 
No mate - I'm not. Clear off to Mexico.
 
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