You don't think that testing 500,000 a week is better than testing 50,000?
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You don't think that testing 500,000 a week is better than testing 50,000?
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But how do you test at German levels if you don't have the same capacity for testing as Germany?
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From what I see here (scottish borders) Social distancing and following the rules seem to be being very well observed. Was away cycling yesterday and can't say I seen one breach, seen may be 7 other solitary cyclists and may be a dozen couples out walking. Apart from a lots of agric activity (sewing and ploughing) the area just seems deserted (and that is in comparison to a very very quiet peaceful place in normal times)
Just fantastic the lack of cars, can literally go for miles without hearing or seeing one.
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Testing with tracing, tracking, isolating and informing the public.
The public need to do their part but the Government is still failing to do its part.
The public need to do their part but the Government is still failing to do its part.
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Same here, just been out for a ride, solitary cyclists & walkers, some farm work going on, bought a box of eggs at a farm gate, very few cars
Ceres is showing his true colours now.
What I mentioned. You can find details on the web.
Mulitquote hasn't worked for me so.
Yes not being able to test NHS workers is a mess but do consider the other factor due to numbers - time. The Koreans managed to get test return time down to 2 hrs (from he web). Say 200,000 need regular testing as they may catch it at any time. 400,000 hrs = 8,000+ days / divided by the number that can be done and tested at the same time. That is the problem with testing. NHS depends on the number that think they may have it at the moment. We were not in a state where we could handle those so yes I would be critical about the time taken to limit where testing can be done but 2hr turn round time again. Handling 100,000 quickly needs a lot of people doing the test and also what to do with 100,000 people until the test results are available - can't keep them all together as some may have it. Let them do what they normally do and those that were clear may catch it.
The too soon comes from a brief on how it is being handled. I am not saying I like it. The virus is going to come into the country due to the way we live. This is where herd immunity comes in. They could for instance lock down the entire country as soon as it's found anywhere and let no one in or out. The only route out of that is a vaccine as things can't get back to normal until the virus doesn't exist - put extremely anywhere. Due to that it's assumed that nothing can realistically be done to prevent the virus from spreading so switch to managing infections by keeping it at a level that can be handled. The herd immunity is a bonus but no idea how long that lasts.
Some of the pundits reckon the next move will be aggressive contact tracing. This may be part of the reason they are ramping up testing. It will need that and finding people who have mild symptoms. Temperature scanners and relying on the public - some might think they have it and have something else. I am extremely critical of them not doing what Singapore seems to have done - set up a web site where people could report that they are self isolating and progress. That from the web though so may not be entirely correct. It wouldn't have taken them long to do that but it wouldn't be perfect due to miss reporting but probably better than nothing.
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Several Interviewed during TV news. That is BBC and C4 in my case but threw in Aljazeera yesterday and do now and again. Also the daily talks.
One pundit was talking about producing phone software to do it - university man who reckoned it might help relaxing lockdowns. This is mostly how the asians has solved the "problem".
It leaves another though. S Korea is open to travel so test everyone that comes in. Increasing public pressure to close it. Their herd immunity is likely to be low. China are isolating people who come in for 14 days. If one develops symptoms ....... another 14 days or keep them all separate. There are 1.3billion people in China. How many have had it? S Korea has a similar population to ours so the same techniques could have the same result here - if we could do it.
Thing that gets me is why do people travel. Holiday and business. Business could mostly be covered via video conferencing / phone calls but people tend to feel uncomfortable when not face to face. Goods need to travel around irrespectively. Holidays - well easy to put a stop to those if needed - not good for the economy though. I do feel that they could have placed certain limitations on travel earlier on.
If some one wants the official details of the Gov's approach find their SAGE web pages and then go to the groups concerned pages. The basic idea seems to be from 2018 if I remember correctly when it became clearer that some virus might really spread. Also an update for CV19. In some respects it's an economic view bearing in mind what goes on around the world and living with it when there is this type of problem.
yes and they are both being heavily criticised for it
Sweden’s prime minister has warned the country to steel itself for thousands of deaths after more than 2,000 doctors and academics criticised its laissez faire approach to the pandemic.
The Dutch approach has been widely categorised as focusing on group or herd immunity, and has faced much criticism in the international media.
The USA seems to be as well. Trump initially mentioned travel restrictions but almost immediately reduced to think carefully about it. On the face of it as it's a large country certain travel restrictions could localise it as per China but people jet all over the place so it would probably have to be done before the virus arrives.
The odd aspect about this and many other areas of government is the skill set of members of the cabinet.
No comment other than that the people with the appropriate skill sets are not them.Who?
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