Holy Smoke

But surely you agree that alcohol causes ill-health and crime, so it should be banned.
Not when consumed in a normal context it is not a problem, only when drank to excess does it become an issue for some.
 
Not when consumed in a normal context it is not a problem, only when drank to excess does it become an issue for some.
Are you saying that mind-altering substances should be permitted if sold in controlled conditions at limited strength?
 
Are you saying that mind-altering substances should be permitted if sold in controlled conditions at limited strength?
No I don't see any point of taking something that you have no control over once taken and puts you into a state of zombie like as an immediate effect. Drinking alcohol is controllable by the amount you consume, imagine if you had a half of lager and it put you straight into a drunken stuper?
 
No I don't see any point of taking something that you have no control over once taken and puts you into a state of zombie like as an immediate effect. Drinking alcohol is controllable by the amount you consume, imagine if you had a half of lager and it put you straight into a drunken stuper?
So you'd be happy with a low-dose spliff sold in licenced premises.

But not with bottles of vodka swigged by 18-year olds or 80-year olds who have no regard for health damage.
 
So you'd be happy with a low-dose spliff sold in licenced premises.

But not with bottles of vodka swigged by 18-year olds or 80-year olds who have no regard for health damage.
A low dosed spliff I wouldn't mind so much, that is more social than popping pills or injecting yourself. No issues with Vodka being consumed either, in France it is perfectly acceptable for children to drink wine with a meal.
 
But not with bottles of vodka swigged by 18-year olds or 80-year olds who have no regard for health damage.

You don't agree with controls on people swigging bottles of vodka.

Deliberately intoxicating themselves with no care to the damage resulting.
 
Steroids cause paranoia.

And they're illegal for "recreational" use.
most who use steroids know how to use them correctly and are normally used by responsible people, they are not illegal for personal use.
 
It's legal to have anabolic steroids for personal use. They can also be imported or exported, as long as this is carried out in person. This means they can't be posted or delivered by a courier or freight service.
 
most who use steroids know how to use them correctly and are normally used by responsible people, they are not illegal for personal use.
In the Netherlands 5g of cannabis is legal for personal use.
You can stroll into a coffee shop and enjoy one with a bifta in civilised circumstances.
 
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