A Warning To Many - They Are Not Your Mates = Energy Companies/Smart Meters

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Power down = electric dummy.
ENERGY company`s ! smart meter`s! ... dummy do try and keep up . But you do fit the term for when a smart meter stops working it gets called a dumb
 
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Never read such a load of blarney. Utilities companies don't need you to have a SM to be able to charge you more, lol. A SM just tells the the utilities company how many units you have used. As for switching you off - its exactly the same protocol as an analogue meter.
Yeah, but what about the little man they put inside them, listening to you all day long. They could turn your tariff up when your not looking.
 
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Yeah, but what about the little man they put inside them, listening to you all day long. They could turn your tariff up when your not looking.
Honestly. What the gullible will soak up is astonishing.
 
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Never read such a load of blarney. Utilities companies don't need you to have a SM to be able to charge you more, lol. A SM just tells the the utilities company how many units you have used. As for switching you off - its exactly the same protocol as an analogue meter.

On an old skool meter, how will your provider know how many units you consumed at any given time of the day?

SMs can provide a wealth of telemetry not available via traditional meters. One such is example is what you are watching on telly. I kid you not. I read an article on The Register about it a few years ago, and then discussed it with a sibling who used to earn about £400K PA selling advertising slots for a national TV channel. She confirmed that her employer was mulling over the idea of buying the data from the electricity providers.


From the above- they (in a controlled environment) were able to detect what you are watching with a 93.6% accuracy rate. In the real word, the figure would be lower but with better algorithms and more computational power, who knows how accurate they could be.

Admittedly, the sold data would be randomised, but it does present privacy issues. There have also been suggestions that the data could be sold to cold callers because, based on consumption patterns, they will know when you are likely to be in.
 
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Admittedly, the sold data would be randomised, but it does present privacy issues. There have also been suggestions that the data could be sold to cold callers because, based on consumption patterns, they will know when you are likely to be in.
Randomised/anonymised, with a large enough data set and data matching it is always possible to extrapolate a lot of supposedly "confidential" data from even the most mangled source of data. How do you think the political parties do it?

Knowing when you are most likely to be in is a bigger worry if the data were to be hacked and fall into criminal hands - it could possibly be used to help plan burgalaries
 
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Ask - if they ever gave a hoot.

You seem to missing the point.

If the energy providers want to start changing more at differing times of the day when demand is high, they will not be able to do that if someone is on a meter that is read every 3 months. If everyone had a smart meter, it would be quite easy for them to do that.
 
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Randomised/anonymised, with a large enough data set and data matching it is always possible to extrapolate a lot of supposedly "confidential" data from even the most mangled source of data. How do you think the political parties do it?

Knowing when you are most likely to be in is a bigger worry if the data were to be hacked and fall into criminal hands - it could possibly be used to help plan burgalaries

I agree with you on both counts.

Apropos selling data, it is inevitable that firms will be willing to pay more for more specific data sets, eg single people in a given post code, which as you say, will help them extrapolate even more data.
 
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Then it won't matter a jot what meter you have FFS.
you really are thick arent you Running is not the same as actually ran out of supplies there is essential industries that need to be kept running and if you can remotely turn off 75% of you domestic load then these industries can be kept running . All very very basic and there is a system in that has been in for decades were certain big non essential industries got an actual visit to turn them off they were on a special tariff to allow this so that whole towns areas did not actually run out of gas
 
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you really are thick arent you Running is not the same as actually ran out of supplies there is essential industries that need to be kept running and if you can remotely turn off 75% of you domestic load then these industries can be kept running . All very very basic and there is a system in that has been in for decades were certain big non essential industries got an actual visit to turn them off they were on a special tariff to allow this so that whole towns areas did not actually run out of gas
And WTF has that got to do with owning a SM or not.

Grow up.
 
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You seem to missing the point.

If the energy providers want to start changing more at differing times of the day when demand is high, they will not be able to do that if someone is on a meter that is read every 3 months. If everyone had a smart meter, it would be quite easy for them to do that.
You mean the flat earth, covid denying, anti-jabber moron luddites won't benefit for money saving schemes unless they opt for a SM?

Boo fekkin hoo.
 
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