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[LastMagicBean]

How about you f*ckstick????

I'm not the one stereotyping E-cig smokers, you are.

I'm just interested in what defines a typical 'proper' fag smoker, is all.

Let me guess, leg tatoos, pierced ear, 'ard dog and a 4 door saloon with only three matching doors. Correct?

I have no idea what you're trying to say to me.

Are you an E-Cig smoker ?? camp and trendy????

What bit upset you???

 

[LastMagicBean]

I was the only one to give a view from both sides, having smoked both, and still end up in a row. What's that all about ???

I'd like to hear nosealls experiences of smoking both. (None, Zero, F*ck-all)

 

[gregers]

How about you f*ckstick????

I'm not the one stereotyping E-cig smokers, you are.

I'm just interested in what defines a typical 'proper' fag smoker, is all.

Let me guess, leg tatoos, pierced ear, 'ard dog and a 4 door saloon with only three matching doors. Correct?

no,yes,depends i have a GSD.and i own a 7 seat ford smax.

ive owned an ecig for about 2 years now,and hand on heart went 10 mths without a proper ciggie(roll ups) i used to get through about 5 50g pouches a month,duty free .then the wife had a bit of a health scare and that was the feeble excuse i needed to start back on the real 1s again,and its slowly getting worse,i need to get my head back in the right zone.
i really would like to knock it on the head once and for all just need to get my head round it again.

 

[JBR]

I've read a few studies by respected people/organisations and some are breathtaking. For example I think it was ASH (Action on Smoking & Health) who did a survey on the effects of passive smoking years ago and their conclusions were that it was virtually harmless. They have "buried" that survey and now refuse to answer any questions on it. Or how about the fact that although Native American Indians have one of the highest rates of smoking, they also have one of the lowest rates of lung cancer. Similarly, Chinese women have one of the lowest rates of smokers, but one of the highest lung cancer rates. Maybe smoking's not as bad as we're led to believe, I'm sure we all know an old uncle so-and-so who's smoked since he was 12 and, although he has a bad cough, he's still going at 85.

I think there's a lot of truth in what you say.

My dad smoked Capstan Full Strength almost continuously (he claimed they were the only ones he could taste). Worse than that, for as long as I remember, he used to drop the dog ends into a large sweet jar then roll them up to make new fags to save money (yes, he was a typical Yorkshireman). Then those dog ends went in the jar, and so on. His roll-ups must have been solid tar by then.

Surprisingly, he lived to the age of 79.

 

[LastMagicBean]

i used to get through about 5 50g pouches a month,

Gregers, 5 x 50g pouches a month??? That's a lot.
My lungs are feeling healthier already.

 

[alan333]

I forgot about another classic example of the govt twisting figures. Say there are 10,000 deaths from a "smoking related illness", let's say bronchitis (I can't remember the actual figures, but they're irrelevant to the example anyway). If you've never smoked, never lived with a smoker, never even seen a tobacco product in your life, but you die from bronchitis... you're in with their "smoking related illness" deaths figures. So, 10,000 people dieing from "smoking related illness" bronchitis, but maybe only a handful of them smoked.

Maybe it's all to do with money. If they can convince you it's bad then they can put a sin tax on it to dissuade you from partaking, but still allow you to do it. Reminds me of climate change. If they can convince us that it's burning oil that's caused it then they get away with charging a fortune on tax for running our "large family car". Remember when a Ford Mondeo sized car was just a "family car"? When did that change to a Focus being the family one? Climate change happens now and then, how else have deserts became oceans etc? We're being force-fed a pile of poo IMHO, and the public are falling for it.

 

[noseall]

How about you f*ckstick????

I'm not the one stereotyping E-cig smokers, you are.

I'm just interested in what defines a typical 'proper' fag smoker, is all.

Let me guess, leg tatoos, pierced ear, 'ard dog and a 4 door saloon with only three matching doors. Correct?

I have no idea what you're trying to say to me.

Can you not read? You arbitrarily decided that e-cig smokers were camp and trendy. You are the one labelling people.

What defines a 'proper' fag smoker LastManicBraincell?

 

[freddiemercurystwin]

I used to smoke, I gave up when my wife got pregnant, though it was exceedingly hard and really it took a few years. I cannot for the life of me grasp how anyone with kids no matter how old they are (well maybe not if they're about 80 odd) can justify smoking. Chances are they will die a horrible and painful death and have to rely on those around them to care for them and clean up their poo when their internal organs fail etc. Shameful.

Here you are you smelly feckers some bedtime reading for you if you dare: http://www.cancerresearchuk.org/can.../dying/what-happens-in-the-final-days-of-life

 

[joe-90]

my wife got pregnant, though it was exceedingly hard

He's bragging again.

 

[freddiemercurystwin]

Haha!

 

[RogueHanger]

I'm late to the party, as usual.

I can't see what the poblem with giving up is.
I used to smoke for over ten years, from about fourteen to about twenty-six. (Used to use my dinner money and paper round wages to buy cigs, before I started work proper. That's how cheap cigs were in those days.)
I realised it was an expensive habit and it was no good for my health, so I stopped. Just stopped. OK, I admit it took me a couple of goes, but that was years before patches, tablets, or any other "treatment" was available.

I doubt if even the doctors were sympathetic to "giver-upers" in those days.

Some of my siblings still smoke, as do some of their children, despite having two cases of cancer in the family, (both smokers), one terminal.
One has dabbled numerous times with e-ciggies.

I'm sorry to say that when I was younger I couldn't/wouldn't consider or stay in a relationship with a partner that smoked.
I suspect I would still have that same approach to potential partners.

 

[freddiemercurystwin]

Another one for the smokers: http://www.endstagelungcancer.info/my-journal.html

 

[JBR]

I used to smoke, I gave up when my wife got pregnant, though it was exceedingly hard and really it took a few years. I cannot for the life of me grasp how anyone with kids no matter how old they are (well maybe not if they're about 80 odd) can justify smoking. Chances are they will die a horrible and painful death and have to rely on those around them to care for them and clean up their poo when their internal organs fail etc. Shameful.

Here you are you smelly feckers some bedtime reading for you if you dare: http://www.cancerresearchuk.org/can...hat-happens-in-the-final-days-of-life[/QUOTE]

Thanks. That's a very interesting and useful site.

 

[alan333]

Perhaps those links will be as disheartening a read for the non-smoking Chinese women as it is for any other cancer sufferer, not necessarily smokers. I speed read bits but didn't see much sign of smoking, just cancer.

BTW I'm not pro-smoking, I'm just open minded.

 

[freddiemercurystwin]

Sure there are many forms of cancer and other nasty's that may lurk around the corner for all of us at any stage of life.

My point is though if you smoke there is a 50% chance it will end your life prematurely, so continuing to smoke is IMO a blatant disregard for those left behind, when stopping will improve your odds drastically. Its not about being open minded. I've seen my father in law (59) and recently my mother in law (66) pass away both directly due to smoking even after she vowed to stop whilst sitting on her hubbys deathbed. He would have made an awesome grandfather and she was a super grandmother but they have lost out, the grandkids have all lost out not to mention the remaining two siblings, of which one continues to smoke, she has one son, she will be lucky to see his children at this rate and he will be left motherless before he should. Such blatant disregard for others. Disgraceful.