Once seven countries have uttered the magic words, Palestine will just !pop! into existence like a beachball released from the bottom of a swimming pool! Ta da! "Oy Vey!" The Jews will say. "What now?"
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Britain formally recognises Palestinian state
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And yet you recognise israel...
A state brought about as a 'reward for terrorists'...
One can only conclude that your biased approach is due to some form of deep seated prejudice towards certain types of people
And yet you recognise israel...
A state brought about as a 'reward for terrorists'...
One can only conclude that your biased approach is due to some form of deep seated prejudice towards certain types of people
UN Resolution 181 recognises the State of Israel. The Arabs were offered the same deal but turned it down choosing to invade Israel instead,
I suspect the recognition of Palestine is not because of Hamas, but more for the sake of the tens of thousands of civilians that have been killed (and are still being killed)
Hamas didn't make this happen, Israel did.
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I don't think @fillyboy is all that alone
Nearly nine out of 10 Britons do not back Starmer’s Palestine recognition
it is a link to an article in the Telegraph (not sure why that is 'restricted' ?)
Palestinians chose not to submit to terrorism...
And why are you holding up the UN as a 'raison d'être' when you yourself don't like it and you say "My personal opinion is that the UN will shut down completely, or end up a shell of African countries, terrorists and the EU"
As always you choose to display your deep seated prejudice at every opportunity...
Luckily most of the rest of the world thinks otherwise
Maybe the Telegraph paywall does something to mess up the link.
The poll asked a rather bizarre question. It asked whether people would support recognition of a Palestine state without a ceasefire and hostage deal. I wonder if respondents had been prompted that it was Israel who tore up the ceasefire and hostage deal, they would have answered differently. Do they realise that one of the aims of recognition is to pressure Israel into agreeing another ceasefire and hostage deal.
Apart from the fact that it was a loaded question (as mentioned), Labour was elected with that promise in it's manifesto...
And they have thus acted accordingly...
So to allay any confusion...
I thought the wording of that poll was weird. It seems to have been a very loaded question. You can get any result you want if you ask the question in a weird way. More mainstream polling shows the opposite. 45% are in favour of recognition and only 15% against. Plus the UK population generally supports the Palestinians as shown below:
yougov.co.uk
British attitudes to the Israel-Gaza conflict: July 2025 update | YouGov
Half of Britons say Israel’s actions in Gaza are unjustified
yougov.co.uk
I’m not sure you have seen the headlines. The UK is recognising the state of Palestine. That’s a pretty big endorsement, whether filly and his fellow haters like it or not.
It's about time Western countries woke up to the fact you can't have a two-state solution with only one state in existence.
Obvious, innit.
The recognition of a Palestinian state by the UK, Australia and Canada is a “political disaster” caused by the Israeli government, Israeli opposition leader Yair Lapid says. “A functioning Israeli government could have prevented this through smart and serious work, professional diplomatic dialogue, and proper public diplomacy,” Lapid said on X.
“The government that brought upon us the worst security disaster in our history is now also bringing upon us the most severe diplomatic crisis ever.”
Obvious, innit.
The recognition of a Palestinian state by the UK, Australia and Canada is a “political disaster” caused by the Israeli government, Israeli opposition leader Yair Lapid says. “A functioning Israeli government could have prevented this through smart and serious work, professional diplomatic dialogue, and proper public diplomacy,” Lapid said on X.
“The government that brought upon us the worst security disaster in our history is now also bringing upon us the most severe diplomatic crisis ever.”
With my limited knowledge of such things it seems we made a bit of a mess of it when we had some control. What was wrong with recognising both Israel and Palestine at the same time and ensuring that both had a state right from the word go. Trying to get them both to live along side together and with the rest of us ! However difficult, would everyone have been in a better position?
I'm not an expert, either. There are people on here with masses more knowledge. But I am sure that if both sides had accepted the original plan and had lived with it peacefully these past 75+ years, everyone would be in a much better position. Could that have happened, though, or is it just wishful thinking. Also, I would be interested to know more about whether Britain could have done a better job in the years when they had control.
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The problem was that at the time of the Palestinian mandate, the zionists were aligned in what were designated as terrorist groups...
WWII sensitivities were in play, and israel still plays on those sensitivities to this day...
Even to the extent of justifying their genocide of the Palestinians!
The zionists have never wanted a two state solution and have wanted more and more land to create a 'greater israel' to the exclusion of Palestinians...
And bibi has just reiterated that...
The only way to get the israeli terrorist state to back down is to enforce a situation where bibi gets his 'super sparta' isolated country and decent israelis (which I'd like to think are in the majority) get rid of bibi and the system of government...
A tall order as the extremists hold the key to power, and when everyone (except of course a load of those extremists) is forced to be a part of the military there is added pressure to go along with the genocide and ethnic cleansing!
A lot of Palestinians agree with you, but unfortunately they didn't. After the 1948 war they invaded again in 1967 and again in 1973 and carried out terror attacks against Israel, not just in Israel but globally, the most prominent being the Munich Olympics and Entebbe.
Four times the Arabs have refused to accept a two state solution, 1937 the Peel Commission, 1947 UN resolution 181 and twice by Yasser Arafat prior to the Oslo Accords.
They made it clear they would only accept one state, from the river to the sea, a state without Jews in it.
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