Climate Change

[Brigadier]

WTAF is GISP?

A scientific research project that was twisted on sceptic websites.


As prof. Richard Alley said,

“So, what do we get from GISP2? Alone, not an immense amount. With the other Greenland ice cores… and compared to additional records from elsewhere, an immense amount… Using GISP2 data to argue against global warming is, well, stupid, or misguided, or misled, or something, but surely not scientifically sensible.”

 

[aveatry]

WTAF is GISP?

Again and again you allow yourself to be schooled - you start blabbing about climate like you know it all - but then show yourself up like you did over the plane tracker you also knew nothing about

 

[aveatry]

A scientific research project that was twisted on sceptic websites.
As prof. Richard Alley said,
“So, what do we get from GISP2? Alone, not an immense amount. With the other Greenland ice cores… and compared to additional records from elsewhere, an immense amount… Using GISP2 data to argue against global warming is, well, stupid, or misguided, or misled, or something, but surely not scientifically sensible.”

Yep exactly as I said climate doomers like to either ignore the GISP findings or attempt to debunk it because it doesn't fit in with their unprecedented never before narrative

 

[Brigadier]

Yep exactly as I said climate doomers like to either ignore the GISP findings or attempt to debunk it because it doesn't fit in with their unprecedented never before narrative

The current rate of warming is, according to the project, the greatest in many thousands of years.

Still, you know better than a published and peer-reviewed professor.......

 

[aveatry]

The current rate of warming is, according to the project, the greatest in many thousands of years.

Still, you know better than a published and peer-reviewed professor.......

Go research the results yourself form the people who actually ran the project instead of quoting 1 climate doomer prof trying to debunk the findings

 

[IT Minion]

Again and again you allow yourself to be schooled - you start blabbing about climate like you know it all - but then show yourself up like you did over the plane tracker you also knew nothing about

For someone 'schooling' me you've told me absolutely nothing. As usual to get any clear answer I have to wait for someone else to explain your drivel.

So what does this GISP (1?2?) prove or disprove? How does it show this current heating trend is not an anomaly? Also do you even know what anomaly is?

 

[Brigadier]

Go research the results yourself form the people who actually ran the project instead of quoting 1 climate doomer prof trying to debunk the findings

Why would anyone take the project staff at their word, and discount those of anyone who read their results and offered a differing opinion?

Why are you afraid of peer review?

 

[aveatry]

For someone 'schooling' me you've told me absolutely nothing. As usual to get any clear answer I have to wait for someone else to explain your drivel.

So what does this GISP (1?2?) prove or disprove? How does it show this current heating trend is not an anomaly? Also do you even know what anomaly is?

I am not doing your reading for you - I cannot beleive that you are posting on a climate change thread like you know everything but have not got a clue about the GISP 1 and 2
In a nutshell for you.
GISP =Greenland ice-sheet project part 1 and part 2
They drilled an ice core so they could look back over 1,000s of years.
They found there have been many sudden temperature increases
Some as quick as 10s of years.

Higher resolution records were indicating considerably less than half a century for a climate warming further studies narrowed the time frame even further James White in nature July of 1993 found the new ice cor ice core results bring rapid climate change to our doorstep changes up to 10° centigrade in a couple of decades or perhaps in less than a decade appear possible the data now revealed that the climate was able to change a full 10°Centigrade in perhaps less than a decade
the ancient warming far outpaces what the world is currently experiencing keep this fact in mind when you read someone arguing that the current global warming rate is unprecedentedly fast

This is based on the results of ice cores -from peer reviewed scientific studies from trusted sources

The climate doomers dont like the findings as it drills a big hole in their "unrepresented -never before " narrative.

 

[IT Minion]

I am not doing your reading for you - I cannot beleive that you are posting on a climate change thread like you know everything but have not got a clue about the GISP 1 and 2
In a nutshell for you.
GISP =Greenland ice-core project part 1 and part 2
They drilled an ice core so they could look back over 1,000s of years.
They found there have been many sudden temperature increases
Some as quick as 10s of years.

The climate doomers dont like the findings as it drills a big hole in their "unrepresented -never before " narrative.

GISP2 was in 1997, there were better quality larger studies since then to replicate it and get more cores to try to reduce error.

If you want a rapid change of temperature you're looking at the Holocene era 8,000 years ago.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0277379107000455

The temperature shift in Greenland is believed to be a result of the equivalent of the Atlantic conveyor collapsing. That will cause major localised temperature changes very quickly once it happens. The cause of the overall temperature shift was due to the earths orbit and vulcanism, which isn't relevant now.

Great news, we're making the same sort of catestrophic changes that normally need orbital mechanics or supervolcanoes.

 

[aveatry]

If you want a rapid change of temperature you're looking at the Holocene era 8,000 years ago.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0277379107000455

The temperature shift in Greenland is believed to be a result of the equivalent of the Atlantic conveyor collapsing. That will cause major localised temperature changes very quickly once it happens. The cause of the overall temperature shift was due to the earths orbit, which isn't relevant now.

Great news, we're making the same sort of catestrophic changes that normally need orbital mechanics.

Now you are an expert All of this has already been gone over on this thread last June --- when we had another hot spell

 

[IT Minion]

Now you are an expert

Tell me I'm wrong. I had seen this but it was probably a decade ago and it wasn't that interesting then.

 

[IT Minion]

This is based on the results of ice cores -from peer reviewed scientific studies from trusted sources

you winter have the evidence for that of course

No links yet again, you are just incredibly lazy.

 

[IT Minion]

last June --- when we had another hot spell

Trolling much, the hottest June ever isn't just a hot spell

 

[aveatry]

No links yet again, you are just incredibly lazy.

Winter was supposed to read "will"
No links because its all been dealt with in here before - go and read

 

[IT Minion]

Thanks to @Brigadier I did discover the EPICA Antarctic ice cores which show almost the opposite temperature jumps, alongside the same millennium long temperature trends thanks to orbital mechanics

Its almost as if you can't base your view of an entire planets temperature on a single location! And that gradual changes to global temperature can make catestrophic changes to local climate.