CO alarm regs landlords.

[Adam68]

Can someone clarify if you need a CO alarm for boiler or not.
I know you need one for a open coal:wood fire and it's recommended for gas fire but do you need to have one for boiler or is it recommend/optional.

 

[denso13]

Optional, not a requirement.

 

[Adam68]

Optional, not a requirement.

Just had an debate with my Gas safe engineer. He thinks it's a law to have one for boiler. As it's on the Gas safety certificate.
Where do they train these guys??

 

[imiller9]

As said, it is NOT a legal requirement for a CO alarm for purely gas appliances in England although that may be different in Scotland. It is however a legal requirement for log burners in rented accommodation

 

[HawkEye244]

If you rent a property it's now a legal requirement to have CO alarm in every room with a boiler. If you live in it it's up to you.

 

[HawkEye244]

Just had an debate with my Gas safe engineer. He thinks it's a law to have one for boiler. As it's on the Gas safety certificate.
Where do they train these guys??

Not law no but it is a legal requirement. In otherwords you open yourself up to prosecution if the tenant is found dead on the floor from asphyxiation and they find no CO alarm they will be coming after you.

 

[ianmcd]

If you rent a property it's now a legal requirement to have CO alarm in every room with a boiler. If you live in it it's up to you.

Only in Scotland not in England and wales yet.

 

[HawkEye244]

Not true Ian check the recent legislation http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukdsi/2015/9780111133439/regulation/4

 

[HawkEye244]

Apologies you're right. I was on a landlord training course where it was mentioned and the speaker was guilt tripping landlords there to get them put in now as eventually it'll be passed, or so he thinks Sorry I got my wires crossed.

 

[denso13]

Not true Ian check the recent legislation http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukdsi/2015/9780111133439/regulation/4

That's says solid fuel appliances, not gas boilers.

 

[ianmcd]

Apologies you're right. I was on a landlord training course where it was mentioned and the speaker was guilt tripping landlords there to get them put in now as eventually it'll be passed, or so he thinks Sorry I got my wires crossed.

For all they cost personally I would just fit them if I was you,but dont scrimp on pennies get ones with a 7 or ten year Lithium battery or the tenant might remove the batteries for something else, I prefer the Honeywell ones but plenty of other decent ones out there

 

[ianniann]

Yup, read it again.

1. Smoke alarm on each floor with living accomodation.
2. CO alarm in each room with a solid fuel combustion appliance.

Gas isn't a solid fuel, no requirement for carbon monoxide detector at all.

 

[ianniann]

For all they cost personally I would just fit them if I was you,but dont scrimp on pennies get ones with a 7 or ten year Lithium battery or the tenant might remove the batteries for something else, I prefer the Honeywell ones but plenty of other decent ones out there

Also remember that the alarm won't last as long as the battery. Most people hang them on the wall and think they're good for life, but they only last a few years (five, maybe a couple more?)

 

[ianmcd]

Also remember that the alarm won't last as long as the battery. Most people hang them on the wall and think they're good for life, but they only last a few years (five, maybe a couple more?)

Honeywell ones and others come with 7 or ten years warranty on the batteries and the unit itself, if one is installed it should be tested at every Landlords gas safety inspection and recorded

 

[muggles]

A CO alarm with a guaranteed 10 year life, including a non-replaceable lithium battery, is less than £20. That's an investment of less than £2 a year. I really don't understand why a responsible landlord wouldn't want one!