Covid passes to be introduced.

[Notch7]

Everyone seems to be in agreement, despite some fatuous reasoning, that people can still catch covid at these pass controlled events and it will be only the vaccinated spreading it.

That’s because the unvaccinated were at home whining how unfair it is.

 

[AngleEyes]

Nice answer Mottie, but I don't absolutely agree with the 20 year comparison to an 80 year old, providing the 80 year is all there with his cough drops The 80 year will likely be much more experienced on the road, be paying more attention to his driving and be much more likely to be ready for someone to step out, plus react with the correct response. Insurance premiums support that view too.

By ELFImpudence's logic, Racing licences are pointless because all the crashes on the track are caused by racing drivers.
All those without a racing licence never have a crash on the track.

 

[EFLImpudence]

Everyone seems to be in agreement, despite some fatuous reasoning, that people can still catch covid at these pass controlled events and it will be only the vaccinated spreading it.

 

[JohnD]

Almost everyone agrees that reducing the number of known infected people in attendance, will reduce the spread.

Apart from EFLI, who thinks that reducing the spread of disease is a bad thing?

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

Everyone seems to be in agreement, despite some fatuous reasoning, that people can still catch covid at these pass controlled events and it will be only the vaccinated spreading it.

A rather silly and illogical comment.

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

Almost everyone agrees that reducing the number of known infected people in attendance, will reduce the spread.

Apart from EFLI, who thinks that reducing the spread of disease is a bad thing?

Yes, he has some awfully weird ideas and understanding of things.

 

[transam]

Wrong thread

 

[EFLImpudence]

Let's put it another way.

Despite the vaccinated having a covid pass, can there still be infectious vaccinated people at one of these controlled events?

Yes or no.

 

[jeds]

Yes, but fewer (many fewer) than the same number of unvaccinated.

 

[EFLImpudence]

Yes,

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

Let's put it another way.

Despite the vaccinated having a covid pass, can there still be infectious vaccinated people at one of these controlled events?

Yes or no.

That is an unbelievably stupid question requiring a simple binary answer, but a binary answer does not fit. Has you have had explained to you numerous times the answer is a qualified yes, but as the sane amongst us understand, not taking any special precautions leads to almost certain mass spread of covid.

 

[JohnD]

@EFLImpudence

Let's put it another way

Do you deny that vaccines can
Reduce infections?
Reduce transmission?
Reduce severity?
Reduce deaths?

 

[JohnD]

That is an unbelievably stupid question requiring a simple binary answer, but a binary answer does not fit. Has you have had explained to you numerous times the answer is a qualified yes, but as the sane amongst us understand, not taking any special precautions leads to almost certain mass spread of covid.

EFLI is trying to make the point that reducing infections, illness and deaths by 99% (or any number less than 100%) is not worth doing and should not be attempted.

Isn't that right, @EFLImpudence ?

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

EFLI is trying to make the point that reducing infections, illness and deaths by 99% (or any number less than 100%) is not worth doing and should not be attempted.

Isn't that right, @EFLImpudence ?

It goes completely over his head, that the effects are cumulative effects.

 

[EFLImpudence]

Let's put it another way

Do you deny that vaccines can
Reduce infections?
Reduce transmission?
Reduce severity?
Reduce deaths?

Do you know what 'reduce' means?

EFLI is trying to make the point that reducing infections, illness and deaths by 99% (or any number less than 100%) is not worth doing and should not be attempted.

Isn't that right, ?

Please show where it is proved that infections among the vaccinated are reduced by 99%