extra socket in garage

[mrcrow]

thanks to all....its the JB work which made me think it was an old one used

i will buy one more robust and tuck the grey insulation inside the perimeter
i suppose i could trim the copper so it doesnt stick out of the connector part
there is a top for the JB but the screw doesnt hold it very well

the mcb hadnt occurred to me..

and i really think conduit will look more professional...and a new box with a top outlet to match the ones at the back

thanks chaps for the advice

as i said its a handy twin socket at the door of the garage and i didnt want to lose it

cheers
geof

When you get a new junction box, BUY A 30 A 3 TERMINAL JUNCTION BOX.

The one you have there is only a 20 A, the terminals are small, and it's awkward getting 3 cables into it.

A 30 A one will be a much better job.

i thought this as well...the jb there looks like the ones i had in my bungalow for lighting...a bit flimsy and not enough "air" around the cables.

this one looks the business!! and a slot to hold the grey insulation
i will be doing a full makeover on this with 20mm conduit and a pallet box to suit

cheers

 

[mrcrow]

To make it look neat, I would remove the socket, refit a PVC box in line with the light switch and fit a length of conduit up towards the roof.
Then run a new piece of cable to the JB.

In an ideal world, the JB could be removed altogether, but that would require rewiring.

thanks this is what i have in mind to sort of smarten up the installation
cheers
geof

 

[Iggifer]

You mean a pattress box? Not pallet box? if so, make sure you get the kind with 20mm conduit knockouts, not the type designed for mini-trunking, as they're a pig to drill a 20mm hole in

 

[mrcrow]

Very true. I wasn't sure what point you were trying to make.

What's the betting it's also RCD protected in the house?

yes here is the interior CU layout





cheers
geof

ps we have a gas hob!!

 

[mrcrow]

You mean a pattress box? Not pallet box? if so, make sure you get the kind with 20mm conduit knockouts, not the type designed for mini-trunking, as they're a pig to drill a 20mm hole in

point and points taken...thanks
pattress it is...sort of difference between a master and a mattress..a mistress.
yes i see the 20 mm pvc in my local toolstation and the pattresses too...and wondered how you get the cable to go through...
there seems to be a collar on the ones in the garage at present with a little screw to hold the conduit
do they clip into the pattress
also...i expect i can use the front part of the box...the socket part straight off the old one...or do i need one to match the pvc pattress

cheers
geof

 

[mrcrow]

a point of interest...do i need to get a certificate for this work?

 

[mrcrow]

That was in reply about upping the garage radial breaker.

Ah.

Not immediately obvious, given 4 intervening posts in the 35 minutes between the one suggesting that, and your response...

A quote would have been a good idea.

If this is what happened:

1. 08:55 - #3 posted
2. Either some time between then and 09:08, or even later if you didn't refresh, you started your reply
3. 09:30 you clicked Post Reply and created #8
4. The site gave you virtually no indication that posts 4-7 had been made - either it had no alert, and just showed your post immediately after TTCs, or it had a hard-to-notice message about there being other posts

then please complain. Add to this: //www.diynot.com/diy/threads/posts-not-showing.439708/ if you like.

I think this new "feature" is awful.

OTOH, if you did notice, and just CBA to edit your post to insert a quote....

B-A-S
you still around old chap...

 

[securespark]

No, I don't think so. You are just refitting/ replacing what is already there.

Your pattress (from Toolstation) is a 53404.
You need a length of 20mm conduit. I saw it on the site but only multiple lengths.
You need a female adapter: 91534. This attaches your conduit to the pattress.
You will have to push out a knockout in the pattress first (visible in the picture).
You will also need a saddle to hold the conduit to the wall, or maybe 2 depending on how long your conduit drop is: 68088

If Screwfix is easier:

Conduit: 57073
Pattress: 89406
Female adapter (2): 70059
Saddle (2): 35862

 

[mrcrow]

No, I don't think so. You are just refitting/ replacing what is already there.

Your pattress (from Toolstation) is a 53404.
You need a length of 20mm conduit. I saw it on the site but only multiple lengths.
You need a female adapter: 91534. This attaches your conduit to the pattress.
You will have to push out a knockout in the pattress first (visible in the picture).
You will also need a saddle to hold the conduit to the wall, or maybe 2 depending on how long your conduit drop is: 68088

If Screwfix is easier:

Conduit: 57073
Pattress: 89406
Female adapter (2): 70059
Saddle (2): 35862

yes we have a screwfix here in penzance and one in bristol near my daughters which i seem to be at a lot
the 20mm conduit i need is around 1.5m...but a 3m is so cheap i will not notice the price..i saw it somewhere at that length...could be toolstation
hey...that screwfix part is 2m...even better
regarding the other parts
just what i needed a correct and accurate shopping list
adaptor
knock out pattress
saddles...there are 3 in the other droppers and i will set the pattress at the same height...
i am an engineer and have worked with architects so have a neurotic eye for things lining up

thanks again chaps...i am in the business now

cheers
geof

 

[flameport]

.i saw it somewhere at that length...could be toolstation

Toolstation do have single lengths of conduit, but inexplicably do not have it on their website or in the catalogue.
It's £1.24 for a 3m length of 20mm.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

i am an engineer and have worked with architects so have a neurotic eye for things lining up

Garage wiring:

//www.diynot.com/diy/threads/not-picture-of-the-week-™.149585/ - also includes one of a number of discussions there have been about aligning screw slots.

And don't look inside your CU.

 

[Taylortwocities]

I think that I may have OCD.
It really annoys me that the initials are arranged in the wrong order.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

If they are out of that, will you have HAODDCK, or would you prefer RCOK?

I'm a big fan of SAKTE, but I shouldn't eat it as I've got MCS.

 

[securespark]

The Hager board is not level, according to the spirit bubble.
And the breakers don't match.

Am I OCD?

 

[Taylortwocities]

Those black ones are arranged in a very OCD way, but a real obsessive would have made sure they all matched!

BTW, I have found that the Hager bubbles are the only thing in the Hager range that I do not trust...