Henry Nowak inquest...

[Odds]

I didn't need to read beyond the first sentence to know that this was Guardian Labour party propaganda.

You're poisoning your own mind reading that fictitious drivel.

So you didn't click on the link to the live stream of the event?

Liff in your bubble brain must be tyrrebly, tyrrebly dull.

 

[Ivor Windybottom]

Protests aren't normally pretty. They're the result of a failure of democracy.

People are desperate. Nobody ever voted for mass immigration, it's never been on any manifesto, ever from any party. The winners of general elections have won because they promised to reduce it for about the last 20 years, then all have done the exact opposite.

I'm glad that people protest, at great personal risk to themselves. Even if they sometimes over-step the line.

 

[King Billy]

The interpersonal stuff isn't really your talent though.

'king silly seems like a textbook idealist dreamy leftie to me. Fairly young at a guess. All principles and daydreams with absolutely no common sense or reality. But absolutely convinced he's right and everyone else doesn't understand.

Socialists are mostly lovely people. Sadly they don't understand the damage that their cause inflicts in the long term. Also they think that non-lefties are intrinsically bad people who actually want the poor to suffer.

Most people start out as genuinely well-meaning socialists. Then they grow up and understand that it doesn't have all the answers and causes lots of unintended harm to people. People take different lengths of time to work this out, some never do. Some wave so many flags in the face of those around them that they feel compelled to continue supporting their cause, even after they've worked out that it's nonsense.

You gotta laugh when Ivor criticises ellal for ad hominem comments, then immediately launches into an ad hominem tirade himself, without any semblance of addressing the topic of the thread.
Talk about utter hypocrisy.

 

[King Billy]

Protests aren't normally pretty. They're the result of a failure of democracy.

People are desperate. Nobody ever voted for mass immigration, it's never been on any manifesto, ever from any party. The winners of general elections have won because they promised to reduce it for about the last 20 years, then all have done the exact opposite.

I'm glad that people protest, at great personal risk to themselves. Even if they sometimes over-step the line.

You're not far from Lucy Connoloy, morally.
I bet you excuse your behaviour of the failure of democracy.

 

[Ivor Windybottom]

You gotta laugh when Ivor criticises ellal for ad hominem comments, then immediately launches into an ad hominem tirade himself, without any semblance of addressing the topic of the thread.
Talk about utter hypocrisy.

I was attempting to defend you, from the alternative theory of being in a french loony bin and not allowed on the internet after 9pm.

Lefties are kinda sweet, in a weird way. Definitely well-meaning. You just need to ignore the track record of every socialist government ever and it's all a great idea.

 

[Ivor Windybottom]

You're not far from Lucy Connoloy, morally.
I bet you excuse your behaviour of the failure of democracy.

Lady Lucy will be in the house of lords soon.

I'm honoured to be compared to her.