How is this equality?

[AngleEyes]

This is fine where toilets are single person use only, however in many places they're not. I'll use the example again, and I appreciate it's increasingly not considered right to hold this view, I wouldn't want my young niece (in a restaurant for example) to use a toilet where a person that's essentially a man (e.g. just starting their trans journey) might also be present, or is maybe just someone experimenting with the whole concept who never fully transitions.

Then make all toilets unisex, then the situation never arises.
When we have visitors to the house, if they want to use the toilet, they don't ask where are the men's or the women's. And they're not expected to choose one or the other.

 

[AngleEyes]

Or some smart arse playing the system to use women toilets despite being an heterosexual man.

Then they would probably be acting illegally.

 

[AngleEyes]

I respect your view more than I respect the views of the people who say that it is ok for people to identify as anything they feel like when they get up in the morning.
I appreciate that it's not considered right to hold this view but hey ho.

Transam can't help it if he believes he's a panda.

 

[AngleEyes]

TRAs will tell you that any man becomes a woman if he utters the words "I am a woman."

No other qualification is required.

Trump will tell you that he won the last election and that he's still the president, and that no other qualification is necessary.
There are some around who believe that they are pandas, and that no other qualification is necessary.
You are determined to prove that you are incapable of sensible discussion and you rely solely on outlandish allegations and comments.

 

[diy_fun_uk]

Then make all toilets unisex, then the situation never arises.
When we have visitors to the house, if they want to use the toilet, they don't ask where are the men's or the women's. And they're not expected to choose one or the other.

Are you being intentionally obtuse?

My point, which I thought was explained clearly enough earlier, has nothing to do with single person use toilets i.e. a toilet area in which only one person can fit. I'm referring to toilet areas that have maybe 2 or more cubicles and an area for washing your hands. So they might be used simultaneously by 2+ people.

I don't want my young niece entering such a toilet (old enough to go on her own but still young) only to see a grown man standing there washing his hands, or coming in directly behind her. A lot of adults would be uncomfortable with this set up also.

 

[JohnD]

It is a false allegation to suggest that I am saying that women do not have rights.

not what i said.

you suggest women do not have that entitlement.

you're making stuff up.

 

[JohnD]

outlandish allegations

show me one.

 

[AngleEyes]

Don't worry, TRAs will tell you that never happens.

ooops, sorry, my mistake https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/news/leicester-news/mobile-phone-held-underneath-door-3771608

How is that remotely relevant?
The article makes no mention of transgenders, nor TRA's.
You've lost the plot and posting totally irrelevant nonsense.
Or maybe you don't read your own linked articles:
Officers are keen to trace a man caught on CCTV
from your linked article.

 

[AngleEyes]

show me one.

Here's one you made recently:

Angle eyes suggests... that women do not have such entitlement.

Of course women have entitlements and rights, but not necessarily at the expense of other's rights and entitlements.
When there is a conflict of rights, it needs to be managed, not one groups trashing another group's rights.

 

[AngleEyes]

you're making stuff up.

You alleged that I said that women do not have rights and entitlements.
I have never said that.
You're making stuff up.

 

[fillyboy]

Then they would probably be acting illegally.

What if they're a refugee?

 

[AngleEyes]

Are you being intentionally obtuse?

My point, which I thought was explained clearly enough earlier, has nothing to do with single person use toilets i.e. a toilet area in which only one person can fit. I'm referring to toilet areas that have maybe 2 or more cubicles and an area for washing your hands. So they might be used simultaneously by 2+ people.

I don't want my young niece entering such a toilet (old enough to go on her own but still young) only to see a grown man standing there washing his hands, or coming in directly behind her. A lot of adults would be uncomfortable with this set up also.

If there are cubicles, they are unisex cubicles.
If you don't like your niece near to men who are washing their hands, then I suggest you consider your sensitivity.

 

[AngleEyes]

What if they're a refugee?

Or a panda, which is much more relevant to this discussion.

 

[EFLImpudence]

Why is it alright to mock and dismiss Transam identifying as a panda but not if he identified as a woman?

Please explain the difference.

 

[fillyboy]

Why is it alright to mock and dismiss Transam identifying as a panda but not if he identified as a woman?

Please explain the difference.

Hope this helps.