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These people who think they know it all, are especially annoying to those of us that do. That was on a plaque on father-in-laws desk, however the problems don't arise until some thing goes wrong. And it's not knowing what you are doing, but being able to show you knew what you were doing after some thing has gone wrong, and if some thing goes wrong, then it kind of points to you not knowing what you were doing.
And po bodies nerfect, we all make errors, and we then need to show it was a genuine accident, and not some one fiddling with things they should not be touching. So although in theroy we don't need to pass any exams to say we are an electrician, in the real world we need the bits of paper, even as a volunteer on the local heritage railway, I had to bring in my qualifications to be copied, and have to attend courses on manual handling etc. Which is a load of nonsense as if I got down the way they say at 72 I would never get up again.
In theroy I would write out my own EICR for my house if I wanted to rent it. I have my C&G 2391, so I can show I have the skill, but I wouldn't, simply as I don't have professional indemnity insurance. And the English landlord law says
Suicide is no longer illegal, so I some one wants to play and kills them selves, does not matter if they fall off a mountain or play with electrics, that's up to them, but putting others at risk is some thing else.
It is hard to decide how much to say on a forum, don't tell some one how to repair their gas boiler and they will still try, forget about gas safe, we are in the real world, to hide behind Part P etc. Does not work, people will still try to DIY, so I feel one does need to tell people how to do things safely even if you know they should not be touching the work.
And I have seen the problem here in mid wales getting tradesmen, north wales it was easy, but not where I live now. So if you have splashed out on a insulation tester, then OK we should help you use it, or the results could be shocking.
However an electrician it seems has walked away from the job. So the big question is why? Now my son walked away from my daughters house with an earth leakage problem as he was running out of time, but he phoned me, and I returned to her house and found the problem. But if I had not been available to take over, he would not have left the house.
So we are looking at
it does not say 0.010 MΩ it says 0 MΩ, i.e. a direct short, and he was only testing with 250 volt. How do you think you can find something he missed? I agree with comments about outside lights etc, and if an electrician had not failed to find the fault, I would also be directing one in that direction, but if an electrician can't find it, how do you think you can?
And po bodies nerfect, we all make errors, and we then need to show it was a genuine accident, and not some one fiddling with things they should not be touching. So although in theroy we don't need to pass any exams to say we are an electrician, in the real world we need the bits of paper, even as a volunteer on the local heritage railway, I had to bring in my qualifications to be copied, and have to attend courses on manual handling etc. Which is a load of nonsense as if I got down the way they say at 72 I would never get up again.
In theroy I would write out my own EICR for my house if I wanted to rent it. I have my C&G 2391, so I can show I have the skill, but I wouldn't, simply as I don't have professional indemnity insurance. And the English landlord law says
so anyone doing the report should have been able to fix the fault. If not they should not be doing the report.
Suicide is no longer illegal, so I some one wants to play and kills them selves, does not matter if they fall off a mountain or play with electrics, that's up to them, but putting others at risk is some thing else.
It is hard to decide how much to say on a forum, don't tell some one how to repair their gas boiler and they will still try, forget about gas safe, we are in the real world, to hide behind Part P etc. Does not work, people will still try to DIY, so I feel one does need to tell people how to do things safely even if you know they should not be touching the work.
And I have seen the problem here in mid wales getting tradesmen, north wales it was easy, but not where I live now. So if you have splashed out on a insulation tester, then OK we should help you use it, or the results could be shocking.
However an electrician it seems has walked away from the job. So the big question is why? Now my son walked away from my daughters house with an earth leakage problem as he was running out of time, but he phoned me, and I returned to her house and found the problem. But if I had not been available to take over, he would not have left the house.
So we are looking at
