Immigration Crisis

[Deleted member 18243]

So how many in here have taken in a refugee

Ask Charlie Golf, he was talking big about taking in Ukranians a few months back.

Another hotel near me has given itself over to people claiming asylum, which surprise surprise hasn't gone down to well with the locals
Any Chipping Norton hotels given themselves over anybody know.?

What will happen when all the hotels are full of immigrants? They are arriving at the rate of about 1000 a day and there is a finite number of hotels.

 

[omph]

IMMIGRATION CRISIS
A lot is being spent and lives lost or ruined in attempts to stop the dangerous Channel crossing by inflatable boats full of Illegal Immigrants who claim they are fleeing danger, but in reality they are is no danger settling in France / Belgium etc so the journey to Britain is not justified on the grounds of War/Danger.
The solution is easy and I can't understand why it is not adopted and the solution is to slash the inflatables ON THE BEACH before anyone gets into them, then boats then become unusable for the intended trip and any future intended trips. The gangs ripping these asylum seekers off will soon get the idea and stop the illegal trade in lives within days.
The solution is easy so why is it not adopted immediately, it would save lives and stop the illegal traffic and the lining of the pockets of the gangs organising it.
I clearly have something wrong here otherwise the simple safe solution would be adopted. so what am I missing?

This is a good suggestion.
We can restitch the inflatables, and build a huge bouncy castle around the country.
Or maybe build an inflatable Island, and dupe them into thinking that's the UK.

 

[Notch7]

Is there a correlation between rising immigration and National decline / standard of living

NO

 

[Notch7]

You talk so much crap

Shortage of nurses
shortage of doctors
shortage of vets
shortage of dentists
shortage of hospitality workers
shortage of farm workers
shortage of tradesmen
shortage of tech talent

but Bodd doesn’t want to admit it’s a problem

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Another hotel near me has given itself over to people claiming asylum, which surprise surprise hasn't gone down to well with the locals
Any Chipping Norton hotels given themselves over anybody know.?

Tory heartlands do you mean ?

 

[motorbiking]

I didn't actually mean that. We were told that after Brexit, to replace freedom of movement, we would get an "Australian Style Points Based Immigration System". But then we had covid, and it seems to have gone quiet.

EDIT: The OSB seems like our new Rwanda policy.

apologies - it wasn't a reply to your post it was the several that claim OSB failed and was illegal. It seems nobody told the Aussies, because its still up and running and appears to be an effective deterrent to unwanted migrants.

 

[Vinty]

. What's to become of the English? (if they ever existed).

?

 

[Vinty]

Most of those who advocate unrestricted immigration have grown used to an endless supply of cheap labour.
They know that most of these migrants can't afford to live next door to them, so immigration isn't really a problem.

 

[Justin Passing]

It's long since been suggested that the French seize the boats, but there's no law permitting it.

What do the French want? If they really don't want migrants ending up at Calais - which appeared to be the case when they went along with securing the port, then banning the boats is obvious.
I'm sure for payment the Fench could get the people/ boats back to France before they leave French waters, which wouldn't be breaking any lawas. Then impound the boats because laws were broken by the trafficers. There are so many things which could be done, I don't believe anyone's actually motivated to do anything.
There's no shortage of "illegal" pushback either - who would complain?

A proper application procedure is what I would favour. How much there is of one I don't really know. ANyone can apply for a visa and use the ferry?

 

[Bod ...]

Shortage of nurses
shortage of doctors
shortage of vets
shortage of dentists
shortage of hospitality workers
shortage of farm workers
shortage of tradesmen
shortage of tech talent

but Bodd doesn’t want to admit it’s a problem

So all the above are lazy? Non of them work hard?


Our problem with most industries above is the lack of skilled workers. Regardless of their colour or creed.

 

[Bod ...]

My deportation plan for the Albanians:

A British task force of tens of thousands made up from all services, together with any volunteers, sail/fly to Albania and "establish a bridgehead" on a beach there, and eventually create a temporary and heavily guarded British zone. Meanwhile all Albanians in Britain to be rounded up, with all movements under armed guard, and taken and held at some southern port. Any loony left protesters or anyone causing an obstruction to be arrested and held in custody until the operation is over - glued to the road or not. Anyone causing more serious trouble to be shot with rubber bullets or similar non-lethal weapons. Normal rules of detention without charge /seeing a crooked lawyer suspended until the operation is over.

Some large cruise ships or ferries to be requisitioned (enough to take all the Albanians in one go) and all Albanians put on and sent back whence they came. On landing in Albania all are to be removed from the ships and marched, at gunpoint, off the beach and into the hinterland. Goodbye.

Operation packs up and returns home, but a force from all services then permanently patrols the Channel and other vulnerable spots shooting on sight any more chancers. Reparations demanded from Albania to pay for the operation - if these are not made a task force to be sent into Albania to raid bank deposits of gold and other valuables to pay for reparations.

Operaration then to be repeated for migrants from other countries.

I stopped reading as soon as I found this ridiculous.

 

[Justin Passing]

He thrives on people saying that. 'Fraid it's just feeding the troll.

 

[motorbiking]

It's long since been suggested that the French seize the boats, but there's no law permitting it.

Thats not actually true. We have to remember that every single adult involved is committing criminal offences while in French Territory. Claiming asylum gives you a get out of jail for your illegal immigration, but these people do not want to and do not claim asylum in France. Therefore we have various maritime, Schengen and trafficking offences which would be easily sufficient to allow vessels to be intercepted, should the authorities wish to.

If they were stopped from boarding and leaving at any point, there would be no point in coming. The French of course are worried that any vessel they intercept in French territory, risks the individuals claiming Asylum and therefore having to be dealt with at the French Tax payers expense. That is why they are content to escort them to UK waters and hand over the problem. If you listen to VHF ch 16 in the area its a very common occurance.

 

[gant]

I stopped reading as soon as I found this ridiculous.

I thought it was quite a good wind up, thought it lacked a mention of razor wire for more effect.

 

[Pat ex]

Thats not actually true. We have to remember that every single adult involved is committing criminal offences while in French Territory. Claiming asylum gives you a get out of jail for your illegal immigration, but these people do not want to and do not claim asylum in France. Therefore we have various maritime, Schengen and trafficking offences which would be easily sufficient to allow vessels to be intercepted, should the authorities wish to.

If they were stopped from boarding and leaving at any point, there would be no point in coming. The French of course are worried that any vessel they intercept in French territory, risks the individuals claiming Asylum and therefore having to be dealt with at the French Tax payers expense. That is why they are content to escort them to UK waters and hand over the problem. If you listen to VHF ch 16 in the area its a very common occurance.

You make a severe complex problem which has existed for millennia, and is a natural human phenomenon, appear to be a simple situation resolvable by arresting thousands of refugees.
That's pretty heartless by any stretch of the imagination.
Why don't we arrest homeless people, that'll stop people being homeless.
Why don't we arrest poor people, that'll stop them being poor.
Why don't we arrest gangs of youths hanging around on street corners, etc.
Why don't we arrest all and any behaviour that we (you) disagree with?