J D Vance. Munich speech.

[Deleted member 265726]

Do you have evidence otherwise.

I hope you aren’t going to start quoting garbage about “2014 CIA funded coup”
It wouldn’t surprise me if you dragged up some out of context phone call clip by Victoria Nuland.

I think he was shoehorned in there by the US and us so that the West could orchestrate a strategic defence against Russia. I also think Ukraine pretty much lost sovereignty at that point.

 

[blup]

Do you think Zelensky is democratically elected by the Ukranian people?

No idea but he has been a bloody good war time leader

 

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No idea but he has been a bloody good war time leader

The TV certainly has cast him as a hero. It is the everyday Ukranians I feel sorry for.

 

[securespark]

He reminds me very much of Jordan Peterson in those respects.

Maybe you should call him J P Vance from now on?

 

[blup]

There is blame on both sides.
The EUs refusal to recognise that Russia had legitimate security concerns about Ukraine contributed to the present situation.

You've got a blind spot on pootin, he has carefully developed his anti western “we’re the victim” based strategy for decades, His actions vindicate the expansion of nato. People made the mistake that he could be bought off with money for his gas. He was only ever after getting back tne iron curtain.

 

[blup]

The TV certainly has cast him as a hero.

As it did Churchill, actions speak louder tnan words

It is the everyday Ukranians I feel sorry for.

You'll feel sorrier when Pootin names his price.

 

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As it did Churchill, actions speak louder tnan words

You'll feel sorrier when Pootin names his price.

Odd thing to say to me Blup.

 

[blup]

Odd thing to say to me Blup.

Giving pootin land that ukrane has fought to defend is a sorrier state of affairs. Logically that should make you feel sorrier.

 

[Deleted member 265726]

Giving pootin land that ukrane has fought to defend is a sorrier state of affairs. Logically that should make you feel sorrier.

How did you imagine this war ending? I thought it was a given before Trump even came into power. I see you refrain from pointing fingers at Germany in any of this mess, is that because you are EU centric or another reason?

 

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How did you imagine this war ending? I thought it was a given before Trump even came into power.

Given? Which way?

I see you refrain from pointing fingers at Germany

Germany didn't invade Ukraine - Pootin did.

 

[Deleted member 265726]

Given? Which way?

Germany didn't invade Ukraine - Pootin did.

Forgive me but you're not sharp enough to converse with on this.

 

[noseall]

Forgive me but you're not sharp enough to converse with on this.

I see a poster that is either too scared to answer the questions put before him, or simply has no answer. Which is it?

 

[Notch7]

I think he was shoehorned in there by the US and us so that the West could orchestrate a strategic defence against Russia. I also think Ukraine pretty much lost sovereignty at that point.

'I think'
'I also think'


so not based on fact then

 

[Notch7]

The TV certainly has cast him as a hero.

and there we have it

Sunshine coming up with his "you cant trust the main stream meda" trope

if only we believed the Trump supporting, Putin apologist conspiracy theory sources that Sunshine watches eh

 

[Deleted member 265726]

Explain why Blackrock and JP Morgan are in Ukraine.

Who benefits?